FW: BX 52 (variegated dietes) and albino seed???

Greg Pettit goblin@itikzn.co.za
Wed, 17 Dec 2003 05:44:02 PST
Greetings,

In 1995 I was given some of the Dietes grandiflora mention in this BX (or in
any event some very close to the description).  I had high hopes of getting
something from the 200 plus seeds Andersons in San Diego also passed along.
Sure enough, almost all the seeds sprouted.  EVERY single one was
yellow-white, lasted about 8 weeks and then died of starvation(?).  Every
year since then I have diligently planted all the seeds produced, every year
the same result!  I am contemplating crossing it with a plain green D.
grandiflora and see if I can bring the stripes across.

I also have about 10,000 variegated Tulbaghia fragrens but they have never
set one seed.  The other species of Tulbaghia ( including fragrens) growing
alongside them always set seed but no variegation has jumped across.

My variegated Haemanthus albiflos set seeds, I took them to the PMB
university but they successfully managed to destroy my mother plant and
every single seed.  All I have left is fond memories and an excellent
photograph.

I had a fairly decent variegated Amaryllis belladonna but I gave it to a
friend of Harold K. when he came to see me a few years ago (it would not
flower in sunny Durban).

I now have 3 good to excellent variegated Cyrtanthus hybrids.  One has a
lovely yellow stripe through the middle of the leaves and the other 2 have
stripes on the edge.  I am waiting for suckers to appear before I move it in
to the lab.

Regards
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie" <jamievande@freenet.de>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [pbs] FW: BX 52 (variegated dietes)


> Paul,
>
> seed from a variegated mother plant will carry the trait, just to what
> procent remains the question.  Leaf variagation is carried in the
> cytoplasmic DNA and not the typically considered chromosomal DNA.  As the
> mother plant is the only source of this type of DNA, the inhertance must
be
> through the mother.  F2 generation seedlings of known trait carriers
should
> start to show the variegation, if it doesn't show in the F1.
>
> Now with all this said, there is evidence that sperm cells (pollen) may be
> able to transfer cytoplasmic DNA, but the chances are very small.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Jamie V.
> Cologne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Tyerman" <ptyerman@ozemail.com.au>
> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [pbs] FW: BX 52 (variegated dietes)
>
>
> > At 07:02  23/12/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: "ROBERT PARKER" <skylark20@msn.com>
> > >Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:17:04 -0800
> > >To: "DELL SHERK" <dells@voicenet.com>
> > >Subject: RE:  BX 52
> > >
> > >DELL:  YOU LEFT OUT (OR MAYBE I DID)  THE WORD "FOLIAGE" IN THE
> > >          DESCRIPTION OF THE DIETES.  IT SHOULD READ:
> > >
> > >                       "FOLIAGE 2 FT. GREEN, BEAUTIFULLY STRIPED WITH
> CREAM"
> > >
> > >AS IT READS, THE FLOWERS ARE WHITE STRIPED WITH CREAM.
> > >PERHAPS YOU CAN MENTION THIS TO ANYONE WHO ORDERS THEM?
> > >
> >
> > Robert and/or Dell,
> >
> > Do we know if there is any chance that the variegation will be inherited
> in
> > the seedlings?  Does anyone else grow this and know whether any
variegated
> > seedlings are likely to appear?  I know that with some variegated plant
> > variegated progeny often appear in seedlings while in others the chances
> > are pretty much zero.  I have heaps of seedlings of D. grandiflora and
> > don't really need more <grin> but would be interested in seed if there
is
> > any real chance of getting variegation in the seedlings.
> >
> > Does anyone know what the chances are?
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > Paul Tyerman
> > Canberra, Australia.  USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9
> > mailto:ptyerman@ozemail.com.au
> >
> > Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus,
> > Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about
> > anything else that doesn't move!!!!!
> >
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