Kelly, All I know about these is that they came from a nice lady in Texas. They were blooming in October and November. The leaves and habit I know nothing about. All I have are the photos. I have them now growing in my garden but the pots have been shifted around and I can't place exactly which one is which. I will look in the next few days and try to post a picture of the foliage of each. John Ingram jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/… http://www.floralartistry.org/