Ernie: Finger slip...you are right. At 09:47 AM 7/20/2003 -0000, you wrote: >When someone as knowledgeable as Tony Avent, and a nursery person in >addition, gives a different name than I am used to, I pay attention because >we do like to have correct nomenclature in our own sales area (I admit to >not having changed our Cimicifugas to Actaea, however--BAD). > >We list Epipactis gigantea 'Serpentine Night' and not Epipactus giganteus >'Serpentine Knight'. The RHS Plant Finder also has the former. Tony, was >that just a slip of the fingers, or is there some controversy regarding the >name? > >Ernie O'Byrne >Northwest Garden Nursery >86813 Central Road >Eugene OR 97402-9284 >USA >Phone: 541 935-3915 >FAX: 541 935-0863 > >"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we >arrive at that goal." >-- Martin Luther King, Jr. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org >[mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Tony Avent >Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:28 PM >To: Pacific Bulb Society >Subject: Re: [pbs] Epipactis gigantea > > >Mary Sue: > > Surprisingly, Epipactus giganteus grows wonderful for us in bone dry sand. > We irrigate occasionally through the summer, but it has proven to be >amazingly durable. We have grown the cultivar E. 'Serpentine Knight' for >about 8 years. > > >At 07:15 AM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote: >>Dear All, >> >>Our wildflower season is winding down now although we are still enjoying >>the starry flowers of the Chlorogalum on those hot days we walk in the >>evening. A couple of weeks ago however we saw this orchid on one of our >>hikes growing close to the Gualala River. It is probably covered by water >>during the winter months when the River runs high, but now is growing in >>the gravel. A lot of our local orchids really need a hand lens to >>appreciate as the flowers are quite small, but this one has larger flowers. >>This species has rhizomes and this particular plant is expanding each year. >>My field guide says that it is found on the margins of lakes, streams, and >>springs in the Pacific states. I saw a picture of this species in a slide >>shown by Roger Raiche at a California Horticultural Society meeting as it >>grows on his property, the Cedars, which has serpentine soil and can be >>very hot in summer (and VERY wet in winter.)I thought it was very pretty at >>the time but thought it would need to be quite wet to grow well, but now I >>wonder how dry it would be in summer. Epipactis gigantea is listed in the >>Telos Catalog and maybe Diana will tell us how she grows it. I haven't made >>a Wiki page yet for it, but here are pictures Bob took: >>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… >>And for size: >>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… >> >>You may remember that we were discussing how to arrange field guides. My >>friend who arranges by color and is rewriting her book was along so we >>began to discuss where she was going to put this plant. She uses white, >>yellow, red, pink, blue, green, and brown as the choices. She was going to >>put it in pink, but had changed her mind to yellow. Most of us voted brown >>as from a distance that is what you notice, but my husband thought green. >>Another said mauve would be good, but my friends just groaned and said >>there wasn't going to be a mauve. I looked it up in Peterson (Pacific >>States Wildflowers) which also arranges by color and it is described as >>having yellow-green flowers, but is on a page that is the transition from >>orange to pink (because of the lip which they describe as orange.) I know >>the colors on everyone's computers will be a little different so don't know >>what you all will think. This certainly illustrates how a few plants are >>challenging to classify by color. >> >>Mary Sue >>Mary Sue Ittner >>California's North Coast >>Wet mild winters with occasional frost >>Dry mild summers >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pbs mailing list >>pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> >Tony Avent >Plant Delights Nursery @ >Juniper Level Botanic Garden >9241 Sauls Road >Raleigh, NC 27603 USA >Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F >Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F >USDA Hardiness Zone 7b >email tony@plantdelights.com >website http://www.plantdel.com/ >phone 919 772-4794 >fax 919 772-4752 >"I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least >three times" - Avent >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > >_______________________________________________ >pbs mailing list >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, NC 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email tony@plantdelights.com website http://www.plantdel.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent
