> >I am also curious about Paul Tyerman's growing his the way he does and how >having regular water makes them shorter. Do they really not burst out of >the tub? And what size are the self watering tubs. > Mary Sue, I doubt that the extra water makes mine any shorter.... I just think that they are shorter varieties. They are called the "Princess" series here in Aus, although there are others now as well. Things like Princess Grace, Persian Princess etc, as well as a few other bits and pieces being released by other companies. My favourites are "Little Eleanor" which is a lovely pure yellow with white and black markings (grows to a foot or so high) and 'Juliet' which quite a pure white with some dark red speckling (this one grows to maybe 8 inches tall.... very petite). The self watering tubs are around 18" a side (the square ones) or are 12" by 24", depending which ones I put in which. Any of the larger varieties I would use the rectangular tubs as that gives them more room. The tubs have fluted sides that I think would give them better strength to be honest (I don't think this was intended.... just an added bonus). I can photograph if you'd like? Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!