Mary Sue Ittner <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > Can you comment on Lauw's statement about Alliums degenerating rapidly to > virus in mild temperatures. I am assuming the Allium that Alberto talked > about was virused when he got it. Some of what I know about growing Alliums in very mild climates I learrned from Thad Howard of San Antonio, Texas. None of the Central Asian "big ball" types, such as karataviense, cristophii, aflatunense (of Hort) lasted more than a year in his climate. The cold winter dormancy cycle is probably much too short in the relative hot climate of San Antonio. But he prospered with many of the "tenderish" Mediterranean species, some of which might run the risk of becoming weedy. But I should think that subvillosum, subhirsutum, roseum, should do well, as should some of the section Codonoprasum onions such as pallens, paniculatum, rotundum, etc. But what one calls a "mild climate" can mean many things. For the four years I lived near the Seattle, Washington area, I found it to be an excellent area for bulbs and really good for alliums. I grew a lrage collection there, and was very pleased how well they did. For example, I grew the lovely trifoliatum with white red-nerved flowers, the minuscule drumstick onion A. rubrovittatum in two forms (one only growing 2" tall, the other about 8-10" tall, with dark reddish miniature knobs of bloom), and the best was A. scrozonerifolium var. xericiense, with big showy heads of bright yellow flowers on moderate height stems. I can grow the very different "type" species Allium scorzonerifolium which has a few non-invasive fairly inocuous bulbils in the flower head, but the beautiful non-bulbilliferous form "var. xericiense" refused to grow for me here and it doesn't appear to be hardy outdoors in northern New England. I think it's a matter of finding which of the 850 species will grow in your area, and I'm sure there must be a hundred or more suitable candidates. Mark McDonough Pepperell, Massachusetts, United States email@example.com "New England" USDA Zone 5 ============================================== >> web site under construction - http://www.plantbuzz.com/ << alliums, bulbs, penstemons, hardy hibiscus, western american alpines, iris, plants of all types!