Dear All, In March 2004 we had a good discussion about the proposal to move the small Leucojums with narrow leaves and unmarked flowers to the genus Acis leaving only L. aestivum and vernum, the robust, wide-leafed, green marked species in Leucojum. I had to look it up to remember it all. For those of you who have also forgotten or who were not part of our list then, these posts can be found in the archives: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/… Look under Leucojum and especially the posts from John Grimshaw as he was explaining the proposals and Rodger Whitlock's too for his interesting information and comments. It is one of those debatable topics that I am sure there will always be disagreement about. John told us that taxonomic studies indicated that the two species of Leucojum that are left in that genus are more closely related to Galanthus than to the species now in Acis that they used to be included with when they were known as Leucojum. We don't have many of the species now considered Acis pictured on our wiki. I expect this is partly because they are difficult to photograph. At least I found that true when I was trying to photograph some of mine, but our digital camera doesn't do well with focusing on small flowers and often chooses the background instead and the manual focus I've not been able to figure out and some of the rest of you may do much better. Since Hans grows a lot of them, maybe he'll have some photographs to add at some point. I found Brian's comments about Acis autumnalis (syn. Leucojum autumnale) very interesting as he too is more successful with these in pots than in the ground. My soil is acidic, sandy, but I don't have summer rainfall so if the best flowering he found was in the UK "where it is almost frost free under trees on a slope with acid sandy soil" the factor that is different is the amount of moisture in summer. I guess as my pot grown plants are increasing well it will be time to try it again in the ground in another spot. Maybe this next time I'll find a place they will like. Mary Sue