This has been an interesting topic, the subject of which hasn't been too great a problem for me yet. I swear that they use reference books to find the most valuable and rare plants when they do commit mischief, though. Two things I've noted is that: 1) Finding a good bait for those who trap, or lure the pests seems to be a problem, and 2) The critters seem to learn to avoid a bait once it's been used for a spell. How about trying a double whammy, and using some excess (or cheap, bulk, end of season) crocus bulbs as the bait. They seem to like them, and might learn to avoid them. I'm sure that some will think I'm sick and twisted for uttering this blasphemous use of the object of our affections, but so be it! Now back to fixing the garlic lime chicken for tonight's dinner. Happy holidays to all Dave Brastow Tumwater, Washington, USA