Hi Gang, I still don't have good information about Crinum. However, the material at the link below (an abstract) clearly indicates that at least some Nerine species start forming flower buds 2 seaons before the flower emerges. The final touches (egg and sperm maturation) might not happen till closer to flowering. The point is that flowering can be influenced by events that happend 2 years before you see the flowers. So, take good care of you plants if you want flowers two years hence. I suspect that Crinum follow a similar pattern. NOTE: It might be that, if plants are stressed by drought or some other factor, the two year lag-time might even become a 3- or 4-year lag time. Plants have a variety of mechanisms to gauge environmental conditions: 1) what has happended and how might such be important for seedlings, and 2) what has happend and how might such be relevant for "when to make seeds." (just a guess) If anyone has the article and cares to send it to me, I will appreciate it. I'm too much a "penny pincher" to spring for the cost. LINK: Embryogenesis and Seed Germination of Nerine http://www.actahort.org/books/430/430_18.htm Cordially, Joe Shaw Still hot in Conroe, TX