Tony, Since when doesn't South Africa not have (near) temperate zones? Massonia is certainly one of the most widespread ZA bulbs, and I'm sure it grows in some mighty chilly spots. That said, I overlooked a bulb of M. echinata when I was repotting some seedlings in 2005, and it came up in another pot that got overwintered in an unheated garage. At the time I was ready to write it off, as things freeze solid there. It came through just fine, with no marks on the leaves. The funny thing is that this bulb came up a month before its siblings this fall. I'm tempted to leave a sacrificial pot of M. echinata in the cold frame this winter, just to see what happens. Just got back from my trip to ZA, where it was fun to see the massonia seedheads blowing across the Little Karoo. Pics are forthcoming. --Roy 59 degrees in Boston today, and snowdrops are blooming. Global warming is such fun!