Here are three messages from Angela in response to this thread posted from another email address so they did not go through. I have removed the original messages from each and consolidated her response for the sake of the digest subscribers. I have been following the discussion with interest, I NOW HAVE an internet connection that is connected!! Anyhow, the best advice i was even given was someone who spoke about a friend of hers who started to work at what he loved - and what a lucky person he was, Yes I work 100? hours a week with my plants, and also find time to raise a family. I think the dollars bit should be forgotten. Whatever you are passionate about you will succeed in, never give up, and if other nurseries can do it cheaper, then you just have to find a way to do it better. Merry Christmas to all Angela http://www.angelasgarden.net/ and: I think if you want to help them, perhaps we could think about what we could buy from them, and ask No computers, no business plan Angela and in response to Ellen Hornig's message: Hello, I agree totally, I am so lucky, I have worked my whole life at jobs I haven't enjoyed, and so has my husband, Dean still brings in the real wage! I am a one person florist/rare plant nursery/flower grower (you have to cover every option)!! I am sure one day I will actually make a profit, but gosh, I am so happy! When I'm happy, i seem to find time for everything. Anyhow, it is so great to hear from the other ladies out there who run the second income, any hints and tips are more than welcome, but I have a mild climate, and lots of lovely clean water and an acre of land! Angela Albany, Western Australia http://www.angelasgarden.net/