Susan Hayek wrote,**And in north Northern coastal CA, snow level is at 500 feet. We got >so much hail it looked like snow covering the ground. >Not a happy event for my bulbs or my more temperate shrubs. I'm up around 1600 feet in northern Oregon, and there's plenty of snow on the ground right now. It's clearing, too, which means a cold night. That happened 2 nights ago, and in the morning some of the bulbs in my frames looked rather puny, with darkened foliage and drooping stems, but by midday today they had all perked up. A few weeks ago we had temperatures in the teens with a ferocious east wind, during which I put microfoam blankets over the bulbs and preserved them all, as far as I've noticed. I don't put on the blankets (a tedious process with more than a thousand square feet of frame area) unless I think the temperature is going to drop below 25 F. So far the worst damage I've noticed is loss of buds on the early-flowering magnolias, but time will tell which marginal shrubs have been damaged or killed. Last weekend, at the NARGS Winter Study Weekend in Victoria, a certain speaker known for "zone denial" was going on about how well various woody plants had survived the recent freeze, and someone sitting near me commented that he had no right to say that so soon after the freeze. Quite right! It takes a while to see the real results of low temperature in winter. I am not counting my hebes until I see them next July. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA Sunset Zone 4, USDA zone unfathomable since on the map I'm on the border between Z8 and Z1!