Welcome to the group, Bill. You and I are near neighbors. I grew up in Silver Spring (near the intersection of Flower Avenue and Wayne Avenue) and have lived in the White Flint area for the last 47 years. I've really benefited from the postings by this group: what a resource! We'll have to get together sometime and compare notes. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/