>Is this better than USDA zone maps? No question. Is it as good as their >western zones? Come on people who live outside the original Sunset zones >- what's your opinion? I find that the climate info that one can glean from the maps on this page: http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/documentlibrary/… is superior to both the USDA and Sunset zone maps. Pay close attention to the heating and cooling degree day maps. Use the .pdf files. Mark Mazer Hertford, North Carolina USA