Thanks for those comments, Bill. Your suggestions are certainly the sensible solution to the question I seemed to be asking. And yes, daffseek is a wonderful resource. But so far the comments which have been posted have sidestepped the real issue I am raising. Often, when primary hybrids are in question (hybrids which involve species rank taxa), there exist nothotaxa which properly name those taxa. In the cases where the hybridization is complex and has departed far from the species level, such nothotaxa become less and less relevant. That is when one would resort to the naming convention Bill suggested for ‘Minnow’: Narcissus ‘Minnow’. Taxa at nothospecies rank in principle name a group of plants, even when only one example exists at the time of naming. We gardeners on the other hand work largely with clones. But one reason I’ve raised these issues is that many of those who participate on this list grow species and near-species hybrids, and it is among the near species hybrids that the question of nothotaxa arises. I wonder how many people are wondering why Jim is trying to turn a minnow into a whale. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/