pbs Digest, Vol 84, Issue 5

clazien@planet.nl clazien@planet.nl
Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:03:29 PST
Good morning
My mother died last 28th of december. 
Will you please remove her mailadress from your mailing list?
With kind regards,
M. van Yperen-Bouwman


Van: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org namens pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org
Verzonden: ma 4-1-2010 19:21
Aan: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Onderwerp: pbs Digest, Vol 84, Issue 5

Send pbs mailing list submissions to

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to

You can reach the person managing the list at

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OT Philesia magellanica vs Texas heat in the shade
      (Jane McGary)
   2. Scadoxus membranaceus (Floral Architecture)
   3. Cold frame update (Jim McKenney)
   4. SIGNA Seed Exchange - Slightly OT (James Waddick)
   5. Define Epigeal and Hypogeal (J.E. Shields)
   6. Re: Define Epigeal and Hypogeal (Monica Swartz)


Message: 1
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:30:22 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] OT Philesia magellanica vs Texas heat in the shade
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <E1NRVDg-0000LA-Pm@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

I've seen Philesia magellanica in the wild, and I think its climate
is very similar to that of the coastal part of northern California
and southern Oregon. It grows in the shade. I expect to see it within
the next ten days as I leave tomorrow for south central Chile and
Argentina. Bring on the Rhodophiala and Oxalis!

Jane McGary

At 10:07 AM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
>Thanks for sharing that, Justin. I have heard that they can handle cold
>weather but I didn't know about the heat. I am also fond of them and started
>seeds last season like you did. My seedlings have not put out a new set of
>leaves yet.
>Berkeley, CA


Message: 2
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 13:46:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Floral Architecture <john@floralarchitecture.com>
Subject: [pbs] Scadoxus membranaceus
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <436615.27554.qm@web36206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

My first seeds came from plants at the Huntington. The first year they germinate, they only put down a root and bulb, then the next year vegetative growth. One flowered in 2 years with constant moisture outside in the garden in a pot. I was surprised it was so quick. The others took 2 to 3 more years. They have been flowering and seeding successfully ever since. I have too many so I cut off the flowers when they are done blooming.
They are susceptible to Stagnospora so I try to keep them away from the Hippies but occasionally I notice some discoloring when they are going dormant.

?John Ingram in Camarillo, CA, between Santa Barbara and L.A.
http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ "Your Clivia Connection"
New number >>> 805.914.9505 (cell, west coast time, please call accordingly. Thank you)


Message: 3
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:06:48 -0500
From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com>
Subject: [pbs] Cold frame update
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <000401ca8cc1$0c1a7e00$2f01a8c0@Library>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="ISO-8859-1"

My cold frames got a real test last night: a cold front arrived on winds
which roared through the night. Wind speeds of up to 50 mph were predicted,
although since I don?t have an anemometer I can?t say just how strong they
were here. I can say that this morning at about 7 A.M. the temperature was
12 ? F.

I made a quick effort to cover the frames with a tarp late yesterday
afternoon, but the tarp was not long enough to cover both frames. When there
was only one frame to cover, I was able to cover the one frame on all
exposed sides. With two frames side by side, not only were the ends left
exposed but winds easily got under the tarp. The winds howled all night and
into the morning. There was a news report of a truck being blown off the

When I checked the plants in the frames today all seemed fine. Even the
Chilean Tropaeolum look fine. The garden forms of Tropaeolum majus are so
extremely freeze sensitive that it?s hard for me to believe that these
Chilean species will survive the winter even in a cold frame.

A big florists? cyclamen in one of the frames also looks fine. Some snow
drops moved into the frame before the big (nearly two foot) snow fall which
started on Dec. 18 are still blooming in the snug frame.

Daytime temperatures did not get above freezing today, so this is a good
test for the cold frames. So far, so good?

And I?m off now to buy a larger tarp. 

Jim McKenney


Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871? North, 77.09829? West, USDA zone

My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ <http://www.jimmckenney.com/> 

BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/

Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS

Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ <http://www.pvcnargs.org/> 

Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ <http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/> 


Message: 4
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 16:57:09 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [pbs] SIGNA Seed Exchange - Slightly OT
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <p0624088bc766cee24680@[]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Dear PBS Friends,

        I know many of you are interested in Iris species of all
sorts especially after our recent discussions on Candy Lilies and
their relatives in the Iris Family.

        The Species Iris Group of North America (SIGNA) Seed Exchange
for 2009 is now available on line. There are over 460 items
available. Most of these are Iris species and selections, many wild
collected. Other iris Family species are included.

        Please note that seeds are only available for members of
SIGNA, but non-members can join at the time the order is placed.
Please read the instruction for ordering. Full list and info at
http://www.signa.org/ <http://www.signa.org/> 

        If you have any questions, please write to      SIGNASeedEx@gmail.com

                                Thanks Jim & Jim, Co-chairmen
Dr. James W. Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd.
Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711
Ph.    816-746-1949
Zone 5 Record low -23F
        Summer 100F +


Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:10:11 -0500
From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields104@comcast.net>
Subject: [pbs] Define Epigeal and Hypogeal
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

There is some question about a complete definition of epigeal and hypogeal.

The definitions in the Glossary at:
I took from Edward McRae's book, "Lilies."  Some folks find them
incomplete, not applicable to other plant families.    My friend cites a
textbook that gives cherry as an example of epigeal and peach as an example
of hypogeal.

Anyone have a good definition for me?


Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
P.O. Box 92              WWW:    http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA
Tel. ++1-317-867-3344     or      toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA


Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:12:28 -0800
From: Monica Swartz <eciton@alumni.utexas.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Define Epigeal and Hypogeal
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID: <p06240810c767def968a7@[]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

I have always understood the terms to mean above and below ground. I
have most often seen these terms used to describe foraging patterns
in army ants!  m


pbs mailing list

End of pbs Digest, Vol 84, Issue 5

More information about the pbs mailing list