Dell Sherk
Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:25:14 PDT

-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Adam Fikso
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:25 PM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] Fraud

I have replied to Tomas privately suggesting that some portion of the fault 
is his. I have both bought and sold on eBay in the last 8 years in the U.K.,

France  (en francaise) and have bought from France, China, India, the U.K., 
Scotland, Ireland and Wales.

Both eBay and PayPal are very careful to avoid errors and have measures in 
place to counteract and prosecute fraud.

I've told Tomas tht the faujlt is probably largely his  for not filing a 
claim before the time limit --and perhaps for not following procedures in 
place, not insuring his shipment, and possibly lack of understanding of what

procedures were needed to bid.  eBay warns against bidding if you do not 
understand the language you are bidding in, i.e., procedures.

 Other possibilities are that the package could have gone astray. Does 
Sweden have quarantine issues and procedures for entry of plants?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.E. Shields" <>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Fraud

> It could be Scadoxus cyrtanthiflorus, which is certainly rare enough.
> If bulbs happened to be shipped with improper papers (no phyto or 
> incorrect phyto, no species identification, etc.) many countries will 
> destroy the plants at inspection.   Lots can go wrong short of fraud.  One

> needs to check all the details before raising the question of fraud.
> I might note that I do not ship plants when I think the weather poses a 
> danger to the plants in transit. A three month delay in shipping is not 
> unknown for such reasons.  Of course, I do respond to telephone and e-mail

> inquiries in such cases.
> I am in no way acquainted with the vendor mentioned.   Incidentally, I 
> myself avoid both buying and selling on eBay, nor do I use Paypal;  just 
> my own anachronistic prejudices at work.
> Jim Shields
> in Westfield, Indiana
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> Jim Shields             USDA Zone 5             Shields Gardens, Ltd.
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