I was hoping you'd weigh in on that, John. Phillips and Rix and Mathew recommend bulb frame treatment; do you find it does well outdoors only in porous soil? Russell At 01:12 AM 10/21/2010, you wrote: >Crocus goulimyi grows very well outdoors in mild damp England... > >John Grimshaw Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs PO Box 382 South Lancaster, MA 01561 508-335-8106 http://www.odysseybulbs.com/