Aaron: Glad you mentioned Polygonatum multiflorum 'Ramosissimum'/'Multifide'. This seems to be the only branching polygonatum, which would mean it has growing points on the stalk. Any idea where this originated and which name is correct? Tony Avent Plant Delights Nursery @ Juniper Level Botanic Garden 9241 Sauls Road Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F USDA Hardiness Zone 7b email email@example.com website http://www.plantdelights.com/ phone 919 772-4794 fax 919 772-4752 "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least three times" - Avent -----Original Message----- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of aaron floden Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:03 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Polygonatum Mark and others, Multiflorum seems common and a little bit variable across its broad range. The Caucasus forms are the most variable, but I have only 2. From France eastward to Hungary I have about 16 forms due to the generosity and kindness of a friend. The one area I would like to see it most is from Sicily. Those plants were considered a distinct species for a while. "Ramosissimum" is strange in being self-fertile whereas the typical multiflorum is not. Not sure if the seedlings come true. "Multifide" is the same plant -- I have them both. Send me an image of the Chinese plant; that's where all the excitement is! Aaron --- On Thu, 12/8/11, Mark BROWN <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: From: Mark BROWN <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Polygonatum To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 2:37 AM Aaron, I have multiflorum wild and very common in my woods here. Odoratum I have collected from the Mont Ventoux and can collect more if you like next spring? I also grow that oddity P.multiflorum 'Ramosissimum'. And a few other species. One is an unidentified chinese climbing verticillate species that I would love to be identified. Kind regards, Mark.