Mark and others, Multiflorum seems common and a little bit variable across its broad range. The Caucasus forms are the most variable, but I have only 2. From France eastward to Hungary I have about 16 forms due to the generosity and kindness of a friend. The one area I would like to see it most is from Sicily. Those plants were considered a distinct species for a while. "Ramosissimum" is strange in being self-fertile whereas the typical multiflorum is not. Not sure if the seedlings come true. "Multifide" is the same plant -- I have them both. Send me an image of the Chinese plant; that's where all the excitement is! Aaron --- On Thu, 12/8/11, Mark BROWN <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: From: Mark BROWN <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Polygonatum To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 2:37 AM Aaron, I have multiflorum wild and very common in my woods here. Odoratum I have collected from the Mont Ventoux and can collect more if you like next spring? I also grow that oddity P.multiflorum 'Ramosissimum'. And a few other species. One is an unidentified chinese climbing verticillate species that I would love to be identified. Kind regards, Mark.