Hi, The web archive for the PBS list was not working for the first six days of June. So that the postings in that period are not lost to the Google. I've copied them below. There's no need to read on, or comment. ================================================== From: totototo at telus.net Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 19:19:54 -0700 Subject:Re: [pbs] Tropaeoleum tuberosum On 31 May 2011, at 20:14, Peter Taggart wrote: > I grow this plant in England, I bought it as the form Ken Astlet but I don't > know if it is this form. Provided the frosts arrive late, it flowers for me, > normally September / October. That doesn't sound like 'Ken Aslet' but, rather, the ordinary form. The plant's flowering period is controlled by day length, hence its late flowering. 'Ken Aslet', the real thing, will flower in July. However, it seems to be quite rare, in part because the nursery stocks are contaminated with the fall- flowering type. The only way to get the real thing is to buy the plant in flower in mid-summer but even then it's a rather frail plant, perhaps due to virus infection. I've had starts of 'Ken Aslet' a couple of times, but in my present garden with its wintertime quagmire, it has always petered out within a very few years. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 19:48:05 -0500 (CDT) From: arnold140 at verizon.net Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS BX/SX comments _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:06:51 -0400 From: The Silent Seed <santoury at aol.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS BX/SX comments Hello, Just letting you know there wasn't anything in your email. Best, Jude -----Original Message----- From: arnold140 at verizon.net To: pbs at lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 8:48 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS BX/SX comments _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:59:52 +0100 (BST) From: Michael Benedito <jindegales at yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [pbs] scilla madeirensis Hi Hugh, Right now im studying at Kew and im not at home. I'll ask my mother to take= pictures this autumn so i can show them to you Regards M --- On Tue, 31/5/11, hpovey at talk21.com <hpovey at talk21.com> wrote: > From: hpovey at talk21.com <hpovey at talk21.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] scilla madeirensis > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org> > Date: Tuesday, 31 May, 2011, 9:48 > Hi Michael do you have a picture of > this Scilla? > = > Best Regards > = > Hugh > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = > = > --- On Mon, 30/5/11, Michael Benedito <jindegales at yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: > = > From: Michael Benedito <jindegales at yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [pbs] scilla madeirensis > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org> > Date: Monday, 30 May, 2011, 23:51 > = > Greetings > = > Im from Madeira and I have seen this plant in the wild. In > some places it is almost gone but I know a few colonies > which are doing quite well. It blooms in Sep-October in > Madeira and during December in Kew which is rather > interesting. > = > My plants at home produce many berries each year and seeds > are very easy to germinate. I'm also growing Scilla > maderensis var. melliodora, a very rare variant known only > to occur in the remote archipelago of selvagens islands, and > even here they only grow on the Selvagem pequena, an islet > which is less than 1 km square of area. The amazing thing is > that the flowers are scented and might be pollinated by > endemic lizzards (Lacerta dugesii subsp selvagensis and > Tarentola bischofii). The=A0 leaves are more silvery too and > i suspect this might be a new species as it differs a lot > from the standard form. > = > They can be grown the same way as heamanthus species. > = > Regards > Michael > = > --- On Mon, 30/5/11, johannes-ulrich-urban at t-online.de > <johannes-ulrich-urban at t-online.de> > wrote: > = > > From: johannes-ulrich-urban at t-online.de > <johannes-ulrich-urban at t-online.de> > > Subject: [pbs] scilla madeirensis > > To: "Pacifib Bulb Society=A0 messages" <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org> > > Date: Monday, 30 May, 2011, 23:35 > > Dear All, > > = > > Scilla madeirensis is certainly one of the most > beautiful > > winter > > flowering bulbs..... if it flowers and grows well. > > Apparently this bulb > > has such a narrow genetic constitution that is on the > brink > > of > > extinction in the wild. It is almost sterile and even > wild > > plants are > > said to produce no or very little seed. The reason for > this > > is not known > > as far as I am aware of. I wonder what you got as > seed > > under this name. > > There were some bulbs for sale when I was in Madeira > many > > years ago and > > I bought 2 or three, hoping to have different clones > and to > > get > > seed..... but no. I think there was one single seed in > all > > these years > > but the seedling did not live very long. > > I find this bulb very difficult to grow. It is one of > those > > plants that > > is always missing something: it is either too wet or > too > > dry, too cold > > or too warm or too=A0 bright or too shady. Madeira has > a > > very mild cool > > moist oceanic climate without extemes , so probably > my > > greenhouse gets > > too hot in summer. I am sure it is NOT frost-hardy, > my > > plants go limp > > and floppy even a few degrees above freezing. > > At Mike Salmon's former nursery in Britain I have seen > a > > magnificent > > plant in bloom a long time ago, something you > immediatey > > would want to > > grow at first sight. But Mike had no seed, no offsets. > If I > > remember > > correctly this plant in all parts was much much bigger > than > > my own bulbs > > even during their best days. I have a feeling that it > is a > > different > > plant, a different form of the same species or even > another > > relates > > species. Mike's plant was even bigger than than the > ones at > > Kew but I do > > not remember where he got it from. > > Maybe it is simply virused? And lacking and losing > vigour > > this way? I > > saw huge clumps in many Madeiran garden, but it was > not the > > season for > > flowers. If it never sets seed, the only means of > > propagation is > > vegetatively which would ease the spread of virus. > Maybe > > this would be > > an interesting object for a good micro-propagator? > > = > > Greetings from summery hot and VERY dry Germany=A0 > > =A0 Uli > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs at lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > = > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs at lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs at lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > = _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:14:31 -0400 From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb at badbear.com> Subject: [pbs] Carnivorous Plants, a few Irises, and some Manfreda virginica Excuse my cross-post! I visited Miami University's conservatory in Hamilton, Ohio today and took quite a few photos of their CP collection. (I didn't downsize the photos, sorry.) Carnivorous Plants: http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040004.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040005.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040008.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040009.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040011.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040012.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040013.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040014.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040015.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040017.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040019.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040020.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040021.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040030.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040037.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040038.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040039.JPG Manfreda virginica: http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040033.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040034.JPG http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040036.JPG Ferraria crispa: (definitely the weirdest irid that i've ever seen) http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040029.JPG Semi-hydroponic tomatoes?: http://badbear.com/dkramb/P6040024.JPG The conservatory has done a much smarter job of pairing up Iris species that will bloom simultaneously with their pitcher plants than I did. I went based off some pics on the web of stuff blooming in coastal South Carolina. So I put together Sarracenia with Iris tridentata. I would have been better off doing Iris versicolor! Oh well.... I'm not complaining. My tridentata won't bloom for a few more weeks, and my Sarracenia are almost done. In the last three CP photos, there was a beautiful iridescent blue wasp(?) that kept going down into the pitchers. I couldn't believe it was able to climb back out. I'm not sure if the pitchers were still too young, or what? But there were several of these shiny flying jewels doing it. I have not seen them in my pitcher plant collection at home. Dennis in Cincinnati _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:26:12 +0100 To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org> From: David Pilling <pbs at pilling.demon.co.uk> In message <p06240802ca095a8640d6 at [10.0.1.4]>, James Waddick <jwaddick at kc.rr.com> writes > About a year ago Paige received an email out of the blue, >from a soldier in Afghanistan who found her web site while trying to >identify an odd plant he found growing on a dam outside of town. > The bulletin tells the story, has a host of pix and even >gives a focus to Paige and her nursery. It is a good story, you can read it here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6967.0 -- David Pilling email: david at pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ From: "AW" <awilson at avonia.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:57:01 -0700 Subject: [pbs] Bulbous pelargoniums In this delightfully cool year, spring has lasted an amazing length of time. The tuberous pelargoniums are still in bloom here. They are normally late bloomers but this year they have lasted longer than normal. If you go to http://flickr.com/photos/andrewrmw/… / you'll see P. triandrum and if you go to http://flickr.com/photos/andrewrmw/… / you'l see P. caroli-henrici, a personal favorite. Andrew San Diego _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ From pbs-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org Sun Jun 5 16:27:10 2011 From: "AW" <awilson at avonia.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 08:24:00 -0700 Subject: [pbs] June list not open Dear All, I have noticed that while other features of the PBS site (wiki etc.) appear fully functional, those of the June archive do not. It certainly does not open while earlier months do. Is it being updated? Andrew San Diego _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 16:39:39 +0100 From: David Pilling <pbs at pilling.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [pbs] June list not open Hi, In message <84AA46B53096459CA2E381A9B339AD21 at Desktop>, AW <awilson at avonia.com> writes >I have noticed that while other features of the PBS site (wiki etc.) appear >fully functional, those of the June archive do not. It certainly does not >open while earlier months do. Is it being updated? You're right the June 2011 archive is not available, we're working on getting it back. -- David Pilling email: david at pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 16:04:54 -0700 From: Nhu Nguyen <xerantheum at gmail.com> Subject: [pbs] Pacific BX 259 - item correction Hi everyone, I just got the correct identification on the seeds I sent to BX 259 as: 22. Calochortus venustus (2009, wild collected) This item should be Calochortus vestae, NOT venustus. My apologies for the mistake. Best, Nhu _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ From: Robert Hoel <bob.hoel at comcast.net> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:06:05 -0500 Subject: [pbs] Fritillaria meleagris I have a number of seed pods on my F. meleagris this year and would like to experiment with propagation. I will let these mature and dry and will probably send some along to the Bulb Exchange. Any recommendations about germinating/propagating from seed? Bob Hoel Chicago Area _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:19:33 +0100 From: David Pilling <pbs at pilling.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [pbs] Fritillaria meleagris Hi, In message <919E0DC1-E829-4EC0-80A1-31161B227649 at comcast.net>, Robert Hoel <bob.hoel at comcast.net> writes >I have a number of seed pods on my F. meleagris this year and would >like to experiment with propagation. I will let these mature and dry >and will probably send some along to the Bulb Exchange. Any >recommendations about germinating/propagating from seed? It is said that seed is ephemeral, therefore it needs sowing or putting in cold storage as soon as possible. But in my experience it will withstand a bit of time dried out. Seed I have had from the AGS/SRGC seed exs which are relatively slow and take place at the end of the year has germinated. Germination is triggered by a cold spell. Sow seed on the surface, maybe under a few grains of vermiculite. Sow it now and it will germinate in Spring 2012 and might flower in Spring 2014. -- David Pilling email: david at pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT) From: r de vries <oldtulips at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Fritillaria meleagris Bob, = if you just let the seeds drop onto the soil=A0 in a few years you will lik= ely see new plants pop up around the the parents- if you don't mistakenly w= eed them out... = Alternatively, in the early fall sewon the surface, cover with a fine layer= of organic litter (i use a layer of vermiculite over the seed sewn in bus = boy trays (with a few holes) with a hardware cloth cover to keep the critte= rs out) leave outside for the full winter experience- but in March when sno= w starts to melt and we get lots of rains and these trays fill up with wate= r over the frozen soil below i like to cover with an window pane propped up= on the leeward side to keep the rain out. I remove the glass when the soil= thaws and the trays drain freely.=A0In early spring they will show a cotyl= edon,=A0 second year -a true leaf or two, in 3-5 years a flowering stem -= =A0 these germinate just like lilies and tulips.=A0 F. meleagris can handle= more moisture than many frits and is very easy in the open garden in the m= idwest. if you collect the seed, you may want to candle it before donating.=A0 spre= ad the seed over a light table-(i use a pane of glass with a sheet of white= paper taped under it, placed=A0 over a low watt lamp in a shoe box) .=A0 t= he viable seed will have a little oval egg with a tiny little embryo inside= that appears as a faint line. once you have looked at a few you will get i= t.=A0 separate the viable seed and toss the chaff in your garden, some will= be viable and germinate.=A0 Alternatively, some just gently blow across th= e seed in a shallow box and the chaff will separate from the slightly heavi= er seed. = your frits will probably increase faster from bulb offsets- little rice gra= ins that form around the parent bulbs. if you dig a bulb now or in the next= few month or so you will see the rice grains.=A0 Rimmer de Vries Ann Arbor, MI area. ________________________________ From: Robert Hoel <bob.hoel at comcast.net> To: Pacific Bulb Society listserv <pbs at lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2011 9:06 AM Subject: [pbs] Fritillaria meleagris I have a number of seed pods on my F. meleagris this year and would like to= experiment with propagation.=A0 I will let these mature and dry and will p= robably send some along to the Bulb Exchange.=A0 Any recommendations about = germinating/propagating from seed? Bob Hoel Chicago Area _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ From: <jonathanhutchinson at rhs.org.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 14:38:24 +0100 Subject: [pbs] Scilla maderensis I have a few seedlings of Scilla maderensis that are dormant at the moment if they are of interest to any. Would be happy to swap some of these for various bulbs or succulents Scadoxus are a particular weakness! Jonathan _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs at lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ -- David Pilling email: david@pilling.demon.co.uk web: http://www.davidpilling.net/ post: David Pilling, P.O. Box 22, Thornton-Cleveleys, Blackpool. FY5 1LR. UK
