non-glaucous foliage of xBrunsdonna

jim lykos
Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:15:06 PST
HI Ken,

My experience of this cross is that the seedlings of the cross both ways 
produce seedlings with glacuous - green leaves a little lighter in the case 
of seedlings from B. josephinea.  However. if your seedlings cane from the 
josephinea seed parent then you will be lucky if one in ten have survived 
the first deciduous period - they usually die off at the beginning of the 
second season.  I have found that the degree of offsets usually is related 
to how much nitrogenous fertilizer they have received. Lots of Chicken/cow 
manure in the beginning of Spring then a forest of offsets! No fertilizer  - 
very few offsets except for the occasional robust bulb.
One other option that comes to mind is that the  Amaryllis you used in the 
cross may itself have arisen from a Amarygia backcross with Amaryllis?  Very 
likely if it came from Les Hannibals Amaryllis breeding bulbs.
There is a large Brunsvigia / Amaryllis experiment experiment involving 
about 600 near mature seedlings  at Camden Park where  John Bidwill 
flowered the first Amarygia's in 1847. There are  seedlings of   B. 
josephinea x Amaryllis, B. josephinea x F1 Amarygia, Amaryllis x F1 
Amarygia,  F1 Amarygia x and the reverse cross of most of these hybrids.
They should start flowering in two years hence - I will keep you informed.


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Subject: [pbs] non-glaucous foliage of xBrunsdonna

I have several pots of what I believe to be my own xBrunsdonnas ... 
Brunsvigia josephinae X Amaryllis belladonna, from 2008 seed. As I recall, 
the seeds themselves looked like all the other B.josephinae seed, but the 
foliage is non-glaucous and more greenish-yellow like the Amaryllis pollen 
parent than bluish-green like the Brunsvigia seed parent. Also, unlike the 
reverse cross where the bulbs grow large and seem disinclined to offset or 
split, it seems the little bulbs have split/offset ... a lot! Is this normal 
for this cross ... with Brunsvigia as the seed parent? I was repotting to 
larger pots this past weeked and all of pots I had labelled as B.josephinae 
X A.belladonna display this same morphology.

Ken Blackford
San Diego
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