A weather report seems briefly appropriate. I'm far south of Kathleen on the southern Oregon coast. I have white stuff on the ground, mostly hail. We've been having snow/hail showers off and on all day - "snail" as I mispoke to my sister. Potential accumulations by nightfall and yes, I'm at sea level. I was just in the poly house. Haven't water in weeks (55% shade cloth on with doors open) and was checking for dry plants. Typically, I water the least amount possible at this time of year as I get much better survival of bulbs in general. Also have several hardy cacti that have survived for many years on that regime. I'll be glad to get them moved into the new house where someday I may get a flower... The Cyclamen coums are beginning to bloom, about a month later than normal, and I still have some crazy purpurascens flowering. My cypriums have been looking wonderful after repotting this fall, the best-looking leaves I've seen for awhile. My mother reports daffodils (probably the old King Alfreds) up four inches. This after 6-8 weeks of cold temps, frost and very little rain. Hopefully, we're now into the rainy season! Robin Hansen Nursery Southwest Oregon Coast, USA robin@hansennursery.com