Ledebouria 'Gary Hammer'

dave s wusong@evilemail.com
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:29:25 PST
I've often wondered if it's the same species as "sp. Barberton." Has anyone
actually grown BOTH? In pictures, it seems that while they are nearly the
same, "Gary Hammer" is larger/more robust.


-Dave

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com>wrote:

> Dylan,
>
> Thanks for the info.  Perhaps this is the site you were looking for:
>
>
> http://biology.ukzn.ac.za/biology/index.php/…
>
> There is L stenophylla pictured as well as a few other spp.  The phoca
> gallery settings are apparently screwed up so most images won't display
> unless you click the download button.
>
> Tim Chapman
>
> On Jan 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Hannon <othonna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tim,
> >
> > I am not certain of the status of this name but have been using it for
> the
> > last few years since seeing it on a Google search for "Ledebouria". It
> was
> > on a page from the Pietermaritzburg Botanic Garden but I cannot find it
> > now. It seems it is not a validly published name. I suppose it could be
> > rendered provisionally as L. sp. "stenophylla" but growers may readily
> > convert this to L. stenophylla. I'm glad it has the name 'Gary Hammer'
> for
> > now at least. When this plant has a proper name, 'Gary Hammer' will have
> to
> > be appended at the end, e.g., L. stenophylla 'Gary Hammer'. But since
> this
> > indicates a special form or clone of L. stenophylla the horticultural
> > taxonomists will have to get after it.
> >
> > Much work is still ongoing in South Africa with ledebourias and their kin
> > and it is quite possible that this entity will have its own name in the
> > near future. There seems to be no shortage of species in this alliance
> that
> > are undescribed or in need of sorting.
> >
> > I've grown this durable plant since 1995 when I got it from Gary, who
> said
> > he collected it near Barberton. Whatever its ultimate identification,
> which
> > will very likely change more than once in future, the collector and
> > locality can provide a means of knowing we are speaking of the same plant
> > with the same provenance. Until someone else collects it again near
> > Barberton ...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dylan Hannon
> > Los Angeles
> >
> > On 24 January 2012 00:20, Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I've been researching Ledebouria a good bit lately and noticed the plant
> >> called 'Gary Hammer' is now being sold as L stenophylla.  From what I
> call
> >> tell that is a non-existent name.  Although there is/was a Scilla
> >> stenophylla however it appears to be a synonym of S leptophylla which
> would
> >> make it one of Venter's species , L leptophylla.  The Gary Hammer plant
> >> looks nothing like L leptophylla.  Perhaps there are plans to publish a
> L
> >> stenophylla??  Curious if anyone has more info on this name?
> >>
> >> Tim Chapman
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