I certainly would be interested in trying crinum bulbispermum up against a south wall planted very deeply and mulched in my zone 5 (it did behave like zone 6 lately on a number of occasions, though. Not the same as forty years ago), if I could grow it from seed and plant out when the bulbs are larger. This way losses would not be so painful... financially, that is. Taking into consideration the providence of the seed, it is worth a try. Nothing risked, nothing gained! Bea in Ontario -----Original Message----- From: J.E. Shields Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 3:57 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum Season and hardiness... again Crinum bulbispermum is in full bloom here (in the ground) right now, and has been blooming for 2 or 3 weeks already, at least this year. It is producing huge seed crops, and has done so in past years. (Should I send some to the BX again?) Crinum variabile blooms in August or September, continuing on into October. It produces few if any seeds unless I hand pollinate the flowers myself. (Anyone want any of these seeds again this year?)