Hi, The seeds of E. pusateri that I sent to the BX came from 9000ft in southern California. Even that far south, there would be snow at 9000ft. I suggest that if you live in a warmer climate such as southern California, stratification would be advantageous. Please report to us if you get good germination. Happy growing, Nhu On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Rodger Whitlock <totototo@telus.net>wrote: > On 21 Oct 2013, at 13:30, Jane McGary wrote: > > > ...keep them moist but not soggy through the winter. >