Thanks, Nathan.I agree that Parthenocissus quinquefolia is a very good guess: I've been trying to make it a Virginia creeper variant since I first saw it. I've searched some century-old books for information about Virginia creeper cultivars without luck. I've made up names (Parthenocissus quinquefolia truncata, P. quinquefolia obtusifolia and others) to search the literature - but so far no luck. And note that the mystery plant does not have serrated edges to the leaves. Please keep trying. Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/