The message was in the digest I received. Leo Martin Zone ? Phoenix Arizona USA On Sep 3, 2015 7:47 AM, <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Brunsvigia Josephinia (Paul Licht) > 2. Re: Is Arum pictum Self Fertile? (L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza) > 3. Query on Hot Water Cylinder (Max Johnston) > 4. Re: Brunsvigia josephinae (was Brunsvigia Josephinia) > (Jane McGary) > 5. Re: Query on Hot Water Cylinder (Paul Licht) > 6. SX 3 Name correction (Travis O) > 7. Re: Group Names for Flowers (Donna Argo) > 8. Pacific Bulb Society BX 385 (ds429@frontier.com) > 9. Ornithogalum ID (The Silent Seed) > 10. OT: Silphium hybrid (Dennis Kramb) > 11. Re: Ornithogalum ID (DAVID ROSS) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 08:23:01 -0700 > From: Paul Licht <plicht@berkeley.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Brunsvigia Josephinia > Message-ID: > < > CAEFbX2TQ0oD83GcK+x8C4PDngOmFqkoOaw6A4EqaNQuModv6iw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Brunsvigia josephinae seeds are notoriously easy to germinate without hot > water tanks. The hard part is getting them to grow to flowering size which > takes many years (a decade or more),. > > Paul > > -- > Paul Licht, Director > University of California Botanical Garden > 200 Centennial Drive > Berkeley, CA 94720 > (510)-643-8999http://botanicalgarden.berkeley.edu > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:36 AM, From HK <hk@icarustrading.com> wrote: > > > Thank u david > > > > On Monday, August 31, 2015, David Pilling <david@pilling.demon.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 31/08/2015 12:14, From HK wrote: > > > > > >> What is a hot water cylinder and how did it play a part in the > > >> germination ? > > >> > > > > > > Old domestic plumbing features a hot water storage tank (aka cistern, > aka > > > cylinder) - often located in an "airing cupboard" where clothes are > > dried. > > > A place that is constantly warm and hotter than anywhere else in the > > house. > > > > > > For more detail of the engineering see: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://aphc.co.uk/UNDERSTANDING%20HOT%20WATER%20SY… > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Pilling > > > http://www.davidpilling.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > HK?? > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 21:20:48 +0200 > From: "L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza" <cortocora@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Is Arum pictum Self Fertile? > Message-ID: > <CAK-yN6dML= > 5Xqs_q1sP6w+GehcVxh86ZtpAU+X8Z_8MW31sVrg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You will probably need two flowers of different ages, not necessarily of > different clones. > Gianluca Corazza > Italy, Z9b > > 2015-08-30 23:32 GMT+02:00 Brian Whyer <brian.whyer@btinternet.com>: > > > I thought you were the "stinkies" watcher ;-)If you put this "arum pictum > > self fertile" into google you get something to read but my guess would be > > that you may need 2 plants, and follow your nose as to when to tickle > their > > fancy. Don't some of these change sex at times, although that is from > > season to season from memory, and may be Arisaema I am thinking of. No > > pollen at NYBG for you to pinch?Good luck, Brian > > > > From: Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> > > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > Sent: Sunday, 30 August 2015, 22:13 > > Subject: [pbs] Is Arum pictum Self Fertile? > > > > My Arum pictum is flowering in my greenhouse - just opened today. If I > > (as Linc Foster used to phrase it) pimp for my plant with a camel hair > > brush will the single flower produce any fertile seeds? If yes, when is > > the opportune moment? > > > > Judy in New Jersey where the xAmarcrinum are flowering gaily away in > > their outdoor pots, which are beginning to distort from the crowding > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 11:59:34 +1000 > From: "Max Johnston" <max217@bigpond.net.au> > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] Query on Hot Water Cylinder > Message-ID: <1C07B1C473AB469E80F75821D5587C29@maxewt1ym2wgef> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > A Hot Water Cyclinder is 5`6"high x1`6" in diameter to take in cold water > and with electric elements make hot water for use in the household,most > houses in Australian have one,although now days the cylinder is placed on > an outside wall. > Our cyclinder is in a cupboard with a small shelf, don`t put anything on > the cyclinder only on the shelf, in 3 weeks the seed is starting to > sprout, regards Max > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:09:59 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Brunsvigia josephinae (was Brunsvigia Josephinia) > Message-ID: <55E4C2A7.2040508@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > This is just to correct the spelling of the subject line so that > searches will get to this archived discussion. > > > On 8/31/2015 4:36 AM, From HK wrote: > > Thank u david > > > > On Monday, August 31, 2015, David Pilling <david@pilling.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 31/08/2015 12:14, From HK wrote: > >> > >>> What is a hot water cylinder and how did it play a part in the > >>> germination ? > >>> > >> Old domestic plumbing features a hot water storage tank (aka cistern, > aka > >> cylinder) - often located in an "airing cupboard" where clothes are > dried. > >> A place that is constantly warm and hotter than anywhere else in the > house. > >> > >> For more detail of the engineering see: > >> > >> > >> > http://aphc.co.uk/UNDERSTANDING%20HOT%20WATER%20SY… > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Pilling > >> http://www.davidpilling.com/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:06:42 -0700 > From: Paul Licht <plicht@berkeley.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Query on Hot Water Cylinder > Message-ID: > <CAEFbX2QX6qpqSit+i-xEqjhzHTg+Z=xCDb= > CK-Henq_pVWM2+w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > They typically start sprouting in 3-5wks seating on my office windowsill > with no supplemental heating. > > -- > Paul Licht, Director > University of California Botanical Garden > 200 Centennial Drive > Berkeley, CA 94720 > (510)-643-8999http://botanicalgarden.berkeley.edu > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Max Johnston <max217@bigpond.net.au> > wrote: > > > A Hot Water Cyclinder is 5`6"high x1`6" in diameter to take in cold water > > and with electric elements make hot water for use in the household,most > > houses in Australian have one,although now days the cylinder is placed on > > an outside wall. > > Our cyclinder is in a cupboard with a small shelf, don`t put anything on > > the cyclinder only on the shelf, in 3 weeks the seed is starting to > > sprout, regards Max > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:54:17 -0700 > From: Travis O <enoster@hotmail.com> > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] SX 3 Name correction > Message-ID: <COL403-EAS2583265661871CFAFB144E4BB6A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi, > > I ordered and received a packet of "592 Allium tangutium? JM" (thank you > Steve!) > > I did some asking around and found that this is actually A. senescens ssp. > montanum, as the true A. tangutium is not in cultivation. (as per Mark > McDonough) > > Travis Owen > Rogue River, OR > > amateuranthecologist.blogspot.com > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 18:33:09 +0000 (UTC) > From: Donna Argo <d.c.argo@sbcglobal.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Group Names for Flowers > Message-ID: > <1044660812.931314.1441132389715.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > wonderful,? please let me know how much and I'll be very glad to send you > a? check/cashiers check/money order. > thanks so much? I had some in California and did not bring any with me to > Arkansas > Donna > > > On Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:08 PM, Diana Chapman < > rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > > I have some. > > http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ > http://www.thebulbmaven.typepad.com/ > > > > Can someone tell me how to obtain some 'Hymenocallis Littoralis" or > Beach Spider lilies in the USA? > > Thanks so muchd > > onna > > > > > >? ? ? On Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:26 PM, Donna Argo < > d.c.argo@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >? ? > > > >? can anyone tell me how to purchase or obtain some Hymenocallis > Littoralis or 'Beach spider lilies in the usa? > > thanks so much. > > > > > >? ? ? On Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:07 PM, Sue <sevanetz@telus.net> wrote: > >? ? > > > >? How about. Crowing of? Crocosmia for their coxcombs? > > > > > > > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yes, yes, yes! What fun. Some of these are quite wonderful. I very much > admire Jim McK's "peal of campanulas" and John's "cloudburst of rainlilies" > >> > >> Myself I'd tweak congratulation to "congregation of crocus" > >> > >> How about a "coinage of eranthis" for their golden yellow flowers > scattered as the snow melts > >> > >> Does a "fragrance of lilacs" evoke more context? No, perhaps that is > too much like a regular phrase / ordinary language > >> > >> Anyone else want to play this game? > >> > >> Judy in continuing-to-be-sunny and somewhat warmer New Jersey > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > >? ? > > > >? ? > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:31:39 +0000 > From: <ds429@frontier.com> > To: Rick Buell via pbs <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 385 > Message-ID: <229806.78916.bm@smtp230.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Dear All, > > The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends > to be shared. > If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY > at > > mailto:ds429@frontier.com > > Include "BX 385" in the subject line. > > > Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not > specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address, > too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first > come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, > included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/share of > seeds or $3 - $5/share of bulbs)(cash, check, or Pay Pal to < > pbs.treasury@verizon.net>; no money orders, please) you should send the > PBS treasurer. Postage and packaging charges are added. > > Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are > not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership > charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb > Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take > advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: < > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/> > > If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the > PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their > donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to: > > Dell Sherk > 55 W. High St. > Salem, WV 26426 > USA > > Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds. > > ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY. > > Dell's email address > ds429@frontier.com > > Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake. > > > I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER. > IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Rimmer de Vries: > > > > 1. Scilla lingulata var. ciliolata (syn.? Hyacinthoides lingulata) (syn. > H, ciliolata) ex Jane McGary. > late flowering Late October - December and later, pale blue flowers have > dark blue ovary and blue pollen- hardy outside in Zone 4 in a cold frame > but excellent for a cold greenhouse > https://flic.kr/p/pXC9pV/ > > > > > 2. Scilla lingulata var. ciliolata (syn. ? Hyacinthoides lingulata) > (syn. H, ciliolata) - ex Paul Otto- probably the same as above, though > there are many forms of this plant with different leaves and flowers and > flowering times, > > 3. Massonia echinata - 2 yr old seedlings from NARGS 2012-13 seed ex # > 1684 donated by Corina Rieder started 18 March 2013- > https://flic.kr/p/rTo7VD/ > > 4. Massonia pustulata- 2 yr old seedlings from BX 337 Arnold's purple > leaved plants, seed started 12 May 2013 > > > 5. Habranthus tubispathus ex Jim Shelids, pot full of 1 yr old seedlings - > seed collected 7/15/2014, started 7/16/2014 > > > > From Paul Matthews: > > > > 6. Seeds of Pamianthe peruviana > > > > From Dennis Kramb: > > > > 7. ONE tuber of Sinningia leucotricha ?Max Dekking? > > > > > From John Willis: > > > > Bulbs: > > > > 8. Oxalis bowiei > > 9. Lachenalia contaminata > > 10. Lachenalia liliiflora > > > > Thank you, Rimmer, Paul, Dennis, and John !! > > > > Best wishes, > > Dell > > > > Dell Sherk, PBS BX > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 18:55:38 -0400 > From: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] Ornithogalum ID > Message-ID: > < > CAPH75tCNwYOpQONcUZ46hxLqxDtUQghPX0xPb1K5ffvnOoyJjQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Is O. juncifolia a synonym for O. juncifolium? > > -- > The Silent Seed > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > thesilentseed.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 20:16:04 -0400 > From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: [pbs] OT: Silphium hybrid > Message-ID: > < > CAKjnnTyZsAqU5tWXuUSxXMLyfXCNJdT3gXzX5mDKQDs8ca-rVQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Sorry for the OT post, but I need some feedback (off-list is fine) from > people familiar with Genus Silphium. My Silphium brachiatum and S. > perfoliatum seem to have hybridized in my garden. I'd like a second > opinion! Please click the link. > > http://www.badbear.com/Silphium/silphium.html > > If this is the first such hybrid do I get to name it S. x krambii or > anything like that? :-D > > Thanks, > Dennis in Cincinnati > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 06:22:29 +0000 (UTC) > From: DAVID ROSS <davidross350@btinternet.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Ornithogalum ID > Message-ID: > <699646365.959837.1441261349142.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think it should be O.juncifolium - juncifolia is probably a Latin > error.? I use theplantlist.org for this sort of query. > http://theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search/… > ?Kind regards DavidFrom: The Silent Seed <tylus.seklos@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 September 2015, 23:55 > Subject: [pbs] Ornithogalum ID > > Is O. juncifolia a synonym for O. juncifolium? > > -- > The Silent Seed > Rare and Unusual plants from around the world. > thesilentseed.com > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 152, Issue 1 > *********************************** >