pbs Digest, Vol 5, Issue 30: Nomocharis

stephen willson stevew1llson@outlook.com
Mon, 31 Jul 2017 06:38:26 PDT
Thanks for all the advice on Nomocharis.  I shall shortly be moving to just south of Bellingham, WA, so the advice from Rodger and Diane and others is very welcome.  I grew N. Aperta from seed many years also when living in the UK (and also a few Div. IV species lilies) , but then moved to Houston, TX for work for 17 years (so forget about Lily-like bulbs there!) but am looking forward to getting back to plant-growing in a more reasonable climate again!  I will keep and eye open in the Fall seed exchanges and will see how I get on from there.


Best regards, Steve Willson


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Nomocharis (David Pilling)
   2. Re: Nomocharis (Pamela Harlow)
   3. Re: Nomocharis (Rodger Whitlock)
   4. Galanthus in Columbia, South Carolina (Jim McKenney)
   5. Re: Nomocharis (rrodich@juno.com)
   6. Re: Nomocharis (Diane Whitehead)
   7. Re: Nomocharis (David Pilling)
   8. Fwd: PBS website contact:///Watsonia/ (Jane McGary)
   9. Pacific Bulb Society BX 421 (ds429)
  10. Re: Pacific Bulb Society BX 421 (keshabcp)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:10:02 +0100
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
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Hi,

On 30/07/2017 04:38, Diane Whitehead wrote:
> I have tried for decades to grow nomocharis from seed, as bulbs have never been offered for sale
> here, and, though they do germinate, that's as far as it goes.
> I would really appreciate some instructions.

I used to beg on the SRGC forum for the secret. I could never get a
clear answer.

I have grown Nomocharis from seed to flower, twice. The plants did not
survive to flower again or set seed.

I sowed a lot of seed. Most of it met with disaster. One has to keep
searching online, people often only sell seed for one year. A tip is to
apply for surplus seed in the seed ex - often you won't get much seed as
first choice, but will get plenty as surplus.

The two pieces of typically vague horticultural advice I did find
"shade" and "peat", I believe hindered me. Here in the North of England
it is always shady, and peat becomes a rotting mess when over-watered.
If I set off again I would treat them as lilies.

The wiki page:

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…

shows my plants and various bit of information. Seemingly it took four
years from seed to flower.

They are wonderful flowers, and given the chance I would clothe the
countryside in a million of them.


--
David Pilling
http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:42:20 -0700
From: Pamela Harlow <pamela@polson.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
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I've never had any trouble with Nomocharis, several species of which have
thrived here for years in part sun.  All are in containers and overwinter
in a cold (to mid 20's F) greenhouse.  I grow them like lilies.  I make my
soil with a base of compost-derived commercial mix to which I add lots of
pumice and my homemade organic fertilizer.  I use my acid fertilizer
recipe, which has no dolomite in it, just 3 pts cottonseed meal, .5 pts
bone meal, and .5 pts kelp meal. (Lately I've begun making a bulb version,
with less cottonseed meal, but I haven't repotted the Nomocharis since
switching.)  The original seeds came from NARGS, Chiltern, and especially
the Archibalds.  My site is cold by Seattle standards, routinely 5 - 10
degrees cooler than the city.  I hope this helps.

Pamela Harlow

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 8:10 AM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 30/07/2017 04:38, Diane Whitehead wrote:
>
>> I have tried for decades to grow nomocharis from seed, as bulbs have
>> never been offered for sale
>> here, and, though they do germinate, that's as far as it goes.
>> I would really appreciate some instructions.
>>
>
> I used to beg on the SRGC forum for the secret. I could never get a clear
> answer.
>
> I have grown Nomocharis from seed to flower, twice. The plants did not
> survive to flower again or set seed.
>
> I sowed a lot of seed. Most of it met with disaster. One has to keep
> searching online, people often only sell seed for one year. A tip is to
> apply for surplus seed in the seed ex - often you won't get much seed as
> first choice, but will get plenty as surplus.
>
> The two pieces of typically vague horticultural advice I did find "shade"
> and "peat", I believe hindered me. Here in the North of England it is
> always shady, and peat becomes a rotting mess when over-watered. If I set
> off again I would treat them as lilies.
>
> The wiki page:
>
> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
>
> shows my plants and various bit of information. Seemingly it took four
> years from seed to flower.
>
> They are wonderful flowers, and given the chance I would clothe the
> countryside in a million of them.
>
>
> --
> David Pilling
> http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 09:47:57 -0700
From: Rodger Whitlock <totototo@telus.net>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
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On 07/30/2017 04:00 AM, Diane Whitehead<ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have tried for decades to grow nomocharis from seed, as bulbs have
> never been offered for sale here, and, though they do germinate,
> that's as far as it goes.
>
> I would really appreciate some instructions.

In our climate, pots, not open garden.

Eastern Asiatic, so summer monsoon climate: protect from excessive
winter wet. I don't know for sure if any species are truly winter hardy,
but the word "montane" in descriptions suggests that Nomocharis is
generally frost-hardy.

Peaty soil.

Do NOT disturb roots! I grew a nomocharis from seed to flowering many
years ago, but potting it on killed it. I suspect that if you really
want a show, sow the seeds directly into a large, deep pot filled with
an appropriate soil mix, and keep it on the north side of the house
where direct sun rarely reaches it but it has good strong diffuse light
from the sky.

Don't forget to water.


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:36:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Galanthus in Columbia, South Carolina
Message-ID: <684978112.2098408.1501439808166@mail.yahoo.com>
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Some friends who have moved to Columbia, South Carolina have asked me if snowdrops will thrive there. I don't know about Galanthus, but I'm pretty sure Leucojum aestivum?will thrive there.?Does anyone else have an idea about this? Is Galanthus elwesii likely to thrive there?Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USDA zone 7 where Uli Urban's blue tropical waterlily is growing like a weed (but has not bloomed yet) and the Lycoris season has started.?



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:03:50 -0500
From: <rrodich@juno.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
Message-ID: <AABNZ67A6A72ZZPS@smtpout03.dca.untd.com>
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I read this Nomocharis discussion with anticipation also, hoping to glean
any useful tidbits.  I regret that I don't know (or can't remember) where
every member lives and gardens.  You all must have memories like a bank
vault to keep this info in short reach, able to retrieve these hundreds
of member locations at a moments notice.  I commend you all!

But could you please accommodate a poor deficient soul as me, and reveal
your approximate gardening location when relevant?

Roger, you taunt me with "In our climate, pots, not open garden."  Why so
secretive?  WHERE is your climate?

Rick Rodich

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:24:18 -0700
From: Diane Whitehead <ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
Message-ID: <4B745AE2-51C9-4A2D-AD08-81E083076C62@gmail.com>
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On 2017-07-30, at 5:03 PM, <rrodich@juno.com> wrote:
>
> Roger, you taunt me with "In our climate, pots, not open garden."  Why so
> secretive?  WHERE is your climate?
>


Rodger lives in Victoria, as do I.

We are in the rain shadow of the Olympic Mountains of Washington state, and have rainy winters,
though only half the rain that Vancouver and Seattle get, and dry summers - a few millimetres of
rain between May and October.  So, the absolute opposite to anyplace monsoonal.

And where are you, Rick?

Diane Whitehead
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

a cool mediterranean climate, mild wet winters, mild dry summers




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 01:33:27 +0100
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nomocharis
Message-ID: <97cc3d68-1c48-19b8-52e6-6b8a4fb5a087@davidpilling.com>
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Hi,

On 31/07/17 01:24, Diane Whitehead wrote:
> And where are you, Rick?
"just west of Minneapolis, MN"

It is easy to look up people's locations in the list archive:

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive

Good practice is to include your location with posts.


--
David Pilling
http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:30:50 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Fwd: PBS website contact:///Watsonia/
Message-ID: <da9c142f-6810-a63e-72bd-f56816656cd8@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

The following inquiry came via the PBS website. If you know of a
mail-order source in the USA  for Watsonia, please write directly to Ann
Marie at the address below.

Thanks,

Jane McGary



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Subject:         PBS website contact:///Watsonia/
Date:    Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:13:55 -0400
From:    Apache <apache@http://www.ibiblio.org/>
Reply-To:        ann Marie <ammr57@yahoo.com>
To:      janemcgary@earthlink.net



This is a message from the PBS website for janemcgary.

I use to be a member but got too busy with work and am looking to join again but was wondering if you still have the monthly or was it yearly member purchase of bulbs and seed.  I\'m looking for watsonia and can\'t find anyone in the USA that seems to sell them.  I bought a few in Greece but surely someone local or one of your members is interested in selling.  Please get me in touch with some one who is interested. Thank you Ann Marie Rametta

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 06:12:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: ds429 <ds429@frontier.com>
To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 421
Message-ID: <460039742.2356092.1501481559024@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Dear All,

? ? ? The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared.
If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at

mailto:ds429@frontier.com
?
Include "BX 421" in the subject line.


? ? ? ? SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to INCLUDE YOUR SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 ? $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.

? ? Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: <http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/>

? ? ? ? If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to:

Dell Sherk
55 W. High St.
Salem, WV 26426
USA

Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds.

ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY.

Dell's email address
ds429@frontier.com

Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.


? ? ? ? ? ? I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER.
IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !!From George Dees: (All Seeds)

1. Crinum stuhlmannii subsp. delagoense. (syn. Crinum delagoense)
2. Crinum macowanii from Kenya
3. Crinum macowanii from Malawi
4. Crinum bulbispermum, 'Marcel Sheppard's Jumbo' bred from crosses made with Hannibal's stock. Wide range of colors:? pink, red, white, mixed and green flowers.
5. Crinum bulbispermum 'Jumbo' directly from Les Hannibal
6. Crinum (macowanii x acaule) x (macowanii x acaule)
7. Ammocharis coranica, mixed seeds from pink, red, and white flowers

From Paul Matthews:

8. Seed of Pamianthe peruviana

From Karl Church:(SEEDS)

9. Hippeastrum? 'Purple Estrella', only one order
10. Hippeastrum 'Evergreen'

From Shmuel Silinsky: (Seeds)

11. Scilla peruviana, ex hort
12. Gladiolus carneus, ex hort
13. Moraea (Gynandriris) sisyrinchium, wild collected near Jerusalem

From Monica Swartz:

14. Seeds of Erythrina herbacea

From Mike Kent:

15. Seeds of Habranthus martinezii

Thank you, George, Paul, Karl, Shmuel, Monica, and Mike !!

Best wishes,
Dell

Dell Sherk, PBS BX


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:18:17 +0530
From: keshabcp <keshabcp@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 421
Message-ID: <4t3s0hpoxch36yxrmtp35c2h.1501483697507@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi DellRequest #1234569 +1Ofrom?Bx 421.ThanksKeshab?


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: ds429 <ds429@frontier.com> Date: 31/07/2017  11:42 a.m.  (GMT+05:30) To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: [pbs] Pacific Bulb Society BX 421
Dear All,

? ? ? The items listed below have been donated by our members and friends to be shared.
If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me PRIVATELY at

mailto:ds429@frontier.com
?
Include "BX 421" in the subject line.


? ? ? ? SPECIFY THE ITEM NUMBERS. DO NOT SPECIFY QUANTITIES. It is a good idea to INCLUDE YOUR SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS, too, in case I do not already have it. Availability is based on a first come, first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find, included with them, a statement of how much money you owe (usually $2.00 ? $5.00 per share of seeds or bulbs + postage and packaging charges), and instructions about how to pay. PAYMENT IS DUE AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE YOUR PACKAGE.

? ? Many of you are subscribers to this pbs elist which is free, but are not members of the Pacific Bulb Society which has a yearly membership charge. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO UP-TO-DATE MEMBERS of the Pacific Bulb Society. If you are not a member, consider joining so that you can take advantage of future offers such as this. Go to our website: <http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/>

? ? ? ? If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the PBS,(Donors will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their donations.), please send CLEAN, clearly labeled plant materials to:

Dell Sherk
55 W. High St.
Salem, WV 26426
USA

Non US donors should contact Dell for instructions before sending seeds.

ALL ORDERS TO THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS ONLY.

Dell's email address
ds429@frontier.com

Do not hit the reply tab or you will reply to all PBS members by mistake.


? ? ? ? ? ? I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER.
IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !!From George Dees: (All Seeds)

1. Crinum stuhlmannii subsp. delagoense. (syn. Crinum delagoense)
2. Crinum macowanii from Kenya
3. Crinum macowanii from Malawi
4. Crinum bulbispermum, 'Marcel Sheppard's Jumbo' bred from crosses made with Hannibal's stock. Wide range of colors:? pink, red, white, mixed and green flowers.
5. Crinum bulbispermum 'Jumbo' directly from Les Hannibal
6. Crinum (macowanii x acaule) x (macowanii x acaule)
7. Ammocharis coranica, mixed seeds from pink, red, and white flowers

From Paul Matthews:

8. Seed of Pamianthe peruviana

From Karl Church:(SEEDS)

9. Hippeastrum? 'Purple Estrella', only one order
10. Hippeastrum 'Evergreen'

From Shmuel Silinsky: (Seeds)

11. Scilla peruviana, ex hort
12. Gladiolus carneus, ex hort
13. Moraea (Gynandriris) sisyrinchium, wild collected near Jerusalem

From Monica Swartz:

14. Seeds of Erythrina herbacea

From Mike Kent:

15. Seeds of Habranthus martinezii

Thank you, George, Paul, Karl, Shmuel, Monica, and Mike !!

Best wishes,
Dell

Dell Sherk, PBS BX
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