Nathan, Can’t say anything about most of these excpt for A. chinense. This is still fairly uncommon. It took me years to get ahold of plants. Apparently it is slow or never blooms or sets seed. Mine has never bloomed in 3 years or so. It does multiply fairly fast if happy which it is not here: been too hot and way too dry. Although it is common in Asia as an edible (mostly pickled) item I have never seen it offered for sale in the US. Jim W. On Sep 28, 2018, at 7:40 PM, Nathan Lange <plantsman@comcast.net> wrote: These are some additional Allium species reported to be autumn flowering but not in commerce in North America (except A. chinense). Many are recently described and rare (not A. chinense). I don't grow any of them. A. archeotrichon A. chinense (culinary) A. istanbulense A. makrianum A. oporinanthum A. tardiflorum A. telmatum A. therinanthum (described as late-flowering) Nathan At 10:34 AM 9/28/2018, you wrote: > Jim mentioned thunbergii, which might be the most available of the autumn flowering species. There are also saxatile, psebiacum, maowanense (which I passed around to people after getting from Chen Yi then lost it myself), and others. None are easy to come by though. Aaron On Friday, September 28, 2018, 9:32:49 AM CDT, Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: Are there other late-blooming alliums that are available in commerce? Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Dr. James Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 USA Phone 816-746-1949 _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…