If you suggest to listservs full of people to drown animal's in traps you need help, it's horrifying, and I don't want to read your posts anymore!!! I thought I might cancel my subscription to PBS in the past because of many other inappropriate and inhumane comments but I held on because I wanted bulbs! And now about the cat hating again..let's face it..birds are dying off because of habitat destruction: humans destroying the land, cutting forests and paving over soil unabated .... with the clown car of humans come the cats the the varmints the invasives... they are filling the void in the wake of our web of destruction and managing to thrive. Starlings... yes it breaks my heart to see them usurp native birds nesting areas... but I look up to them actually, they are masters of survival, taken haplessly out of their own worlds into alien ones and figuring out how to live. It's a new world order and there's no going back to what we knew and what was... Bulb people: if nothing else, walk the world with a kind heart... ..before you cast the blame on cats .. ...and starlings and kudzu ... Yoli _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…