Weldenia candida propagation

L. Cortopassi - G. Corazza via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Wed, 15 Dec 2021 01:20:52 PST
Hi,
It seems that a propagation method is "true" root cutting. I'm using it,
but I will have to wait next spring to know if it will have worked in my
case.
I read about it in the RHS website:
https://rhs.org.uk/plants/19106/… (Then click on
"root cutting" in the propagation paragraph.)

I also would like to get different clones for seed propagation...
And what about its blue-flowered form? (Not the best blue, though...)

Gianluca Corazza,
Italy


Il giorno mer 15 dic 2021 alle ore 00:07 Wychwood Gardens & Nursery via pbs
<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> ha scritto:

> I’ve read in a few places this can be propagated via root cuttings, but am
> unsure of how. Has anyone had success doing so? The obvious method of
> propagation is crown division, which works nicely, but only yields so many.
> I’m wondering whether this is one of those occasions where by “root
> cuttings” actually what is meant is “crown division with bud”, rather than
> a length of root inserted horizontally as per Rudbeckias, Centaureas etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
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> >   4. Thank You (Mary Sue Ittner)
> >   5. Re: Thank You (Marc Rosenblum)
> >   6. APHIS seed import license/ permit info (Mike Rummerfield)
> >   7. Re: Thank You (Mike Rummerfield)
> >   8. Re: APHIS seed import license/ permit info (R Hansen)
> >   9. Re: MORE APHIS seed import license/ permit info (Laura & Dave)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 07:18:53 -0800
> > From: James Shao <jamesmsss55@gmail.com>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lachenalia viridi
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> > Are the position of the flowers fairly consistent within the species for
> > vanzyliae and viridiflora?  The photos of viridiflora I see have the
> > flowers held out or horizontally while vanzyliae point downwards.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:30:51 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net>
> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
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> > Subject: [pbs] BX payments and membership renewal
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> > As we near the end of the year it's a good time to get everyone's
> account up to date.
> > I know that some have not received BX shipments, especially the overseas
> members.
> > If you are not sure if you have a balance you can write me at
> Arnold140@version.net.
> > You can pay here for your outstanding BX's
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> > Also December is a good time to renew you membership.
> > It will reduce the need for post card reminders and you will not miss
> out on any BX/SX offerings.
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> > The final Bulb Garden of 2021 is in the printing phase and will have
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> > Happy Holiday to all and safe time to all.
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:00:49 -0800
> > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> > Subject: [pbs] Lachenalia viridiflora vs. L. vanzyliae
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> > If you look at Graham Duncan's key in his Lachenalia book it states:
> >
> > Perianth suberect - that leads to L. orchiodes and L. viridiflora
> >
> > Perianth pendulous, cernuous or widely spreading
> >
> > that leads to L. vanzyliae
> >
> >> On 12/13/2021 7:18 AM, James Shao via pbs wrote:
> >> Are the position of the flowers fairly consistent within the species for
> >> vanzyliae and viridiflora?  The photos of viridiflora I see have the
> >> flowers held out or horizontally while vanzyliae point downwards.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:19:15 -0800
> > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
> >    <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: [pbs] Thank You
> > Message-ID: <34c8cb4e-3282-4a9d-083d-bf54a3ff7937@mcn.org>
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> > I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's
> > renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number of
> > the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who volunteers
> > for this group, but there are a few who have served a long time and/or
> > made significant contributions of time and talent to this group.
> >
> > Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning and
> > has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an ethical
> > way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the Bulb
> > Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been a big
> > job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as
> > communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also
> > shares some of his excellent photos with the group.
> >
> > David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting
> > the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly he
> > became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the wiki,
> > the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot all the
> > problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy. When
> > ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were problems, he
> > moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money and allowing
> > things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many talents that
> > allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he manages work much
> > better. And he has always been great about communicating with his teams.
> > I don't know how the group could manage without him.
> >
> > Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the
> > President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She
> > communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone who
> > has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful
> > information to the list.
> >
> > Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years.
> > She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it.? She
> > is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very
> > seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as they
> > arise.
> >
> > All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group.
> >
> > Mary Sue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:26:04 -0800
> > From: Marc Rosenblum <ivanhoe3@charter.net>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Thank You
> > Message-ID: <69f0640a-cc42-7d62-e481-c322112399b5@charter.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> >> On 12/13/2021 8:19 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote:
> >> I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's
> >> renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number
> >> of the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who
> >> volunteers for this group, but there are a few who have served a long
> >> time and/or made significant contributions of time and talent to this
> >> group.
> >>
> >> Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning
> >> and has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an
> >> ethical way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the
> >> Bulb Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been
> >> a big job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as
> >> communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also
> >> shares some of his excellent photos with the group.
> >>
> >> David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting
> >> the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly
> >> he became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the
> >> wiki, the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot
> >> all the problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy.
> >> When ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were
> >> problems, he moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money
> >> and allowing things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many
> >> talents that allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he
> >> manages work much better. And he has always been great about
> >> communicating with his teams. I don't know how the group could manage
> >> without him.
> >>
> >> Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the
> >> President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She
> >> communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone
> >> who has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful
> >> information to the list.
> >>
> >> Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years.
> >> She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it.? She
> >> is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very
> >> seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as
> >> they arise.
> >>
> >> All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group.
> > *Indeed!*
> >>
> >>
> >> Mary Sue
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:35:49 -0800
> > From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: [pbs] APHIS seed import license/ permit info
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CACvUPLeRsWFvrqZxG9Ap_PGZtP0x2hHp-XS1VEb-uD_WakL5Sw@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > With permission from Bobby Ward,  NARGS Exec. Sec., representing the
> North
> > American Rock Garden Society (NARGS), here is a copy of the text of an
> > email recently sent out to their membership regarding information that is
> > pertinent to discussions we've had here on PBS listserv about the often
> > convoluted intricacies of applying for APHIS permits, not to forget the
> > often helpful agents at APHIS.  -------------------- ?
> >
> > APHIS Permit Alert from NARGS 15
> >
> > Beginning January 1, 2022, new Small Lots of Seed permit, used for
> > importing seeds from organizations and seed collectors in Canada and
> > overseas, will only be valid for a single year.  This is in line with
> other
> > import permits; we have been fortunate to have had Small Lots of Seed
> > permits that were good for three years.  Currently held permits are valid
> > until their expiration dates.  The one-year permit will still be used for
> > multiple importations.
> >
> > *Until the end of December, you can still apply for a new permit that
> will
> > be valid for three years.*  You will do it through the new APHIS-PPQ
> eFile
> > system.  The application is straightforward and simple, the confirmation
> of
> > your application is instantaneous, and your permit and shipping labels
> > arrive minutes later.
> >
> > Instructions for applying for the three year  SLS permit can be viewed
> > here: Small Lots of Seed Permit Information
> > <
> https://nargs.org/sites/default/…
> >
> >
> > For further information about the program check out the Small Lots of
> Seed
> > <https://www.nargs.org/small-lots-seed/> page. As always, we are here to
> > help.  If you have questions, use the Contact button (at the top right of
> > nargs.org pages) and select Category: Seed Exchange for any problems or
> > issues.
> >
> > Bobby Ward, NARGS Exec. Sec.
> >
> > Email: nargs@nc.rr.com
> >
> > NARGS in the U.S. is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization and thus a
> > donation to NARGS may be tax deductible.
> > Your financial support for NARGS programs and activities is appreciated.
> > As a reminder, we do not share your email address or contact with any
> > outside society or organization.
> >
> > NARGS Support Team
> > ?2021 North American Rock Garden Society
> > P.O. Box 18604, Raleigh, North Carolina 27619-8604
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:57:47 -0800
> > From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Thank You
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CACvUPLcsKSvDUebD-9YwRSDfEfq+PfoUKXq1UrY5WeSnm8r1qg@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > A big THANK YOU! to *all* of the volunteers that give so generously of
> > their time and efforts that
> > make PBS the outstanding organization that it is.  It couldn't and
> wouldn't
> > be done without you.
> >
> > A sincere thank you, thank you, thank you,
> > Mike
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 8:19 AM Mary Sue Ittner via pbs <
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's
> >> renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number of
> >> the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who volunteers
> >> for this group, but there are a few who have served a long time and/or
> >> made significant contributions of time and talent to this group.
> >>
> >> Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning and
> >> has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an ethical
> >> way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the Bulb
> >> Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been a big
> >> job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as
> >> communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also
> >> shares some of his excellent photos with the group.
> >>
> >> David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting
> >> the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly he
> >> became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the wiki,
> >> the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot all the
> >> problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy. When
> >> ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were problems, he
> >> moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money and allowing
> >> things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many talents that
> >> allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he manages work much
> >> better. And he has always been great about communicating with his teams.
> >> I don't know how the group could manage without him.
> >>
> >> Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the
> >> President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She
> >> communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone who
> >> has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful
> >> information to the list.
> >>
> >> Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years.
> >> She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it.  She
> >> is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very
> >> seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as they
> >> arise.
> >>
> >> All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group.
> >>
> >> Mary Sue
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> pbs mailing list
> >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
> >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…
> >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:22:59 -0800
> > From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com>
> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] APHIS seed import license/ permit info
> > Message-ID: <003901d7f067$9ae0cb00$d0a26100$@hansennursery.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Thanks very much to Bobby and to you for bringing this to our attention!
> I don't mind going through the process but having to learn the new rules
> through the back door so to speak is a bit frustrating. Now, if we could
> just get both the EU and UK to follow the US way of importing seeds, it
> would help all of us immensely. Rules are fine; I just wish there was a
> tiny bit more compromise between nations.
> >
> > Robin Hansen
> > President, PBS
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:25:44 -0800
> > From: Laura & Dave <toadlily@integra.net>
> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> > Subject: Re: [pbs] MORE APHIS seed import license/ permit info
> > Message-ID: <0d0e2db2-0cc7-e9f8-fd4c-04c5ffd39193@integra.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi all.
> > ? Thanks to NARGS and Mike for the information posted regarding
> permits.? I had
> > just finished getting my permit when this was all posted by NARGS and
> here.
> > ? One thing I noted that was missing from the information was references
> to the
> > old small lots of seeds permits.? These started with P37-, and appear to
> no
> > longer exist.? The Small lots of seed has been subsumed into the P587-
> permit
> > type, as a sub-category.? I have gotten a second notice that my old
> permit will
> > expire, after I had my new one, so there seems to be a disconnect there.
> > ?? I've been trying to find out one other thing.? On the instruction
> page for
> > the new mailing labels (Green/Yellow), there is a statement that
> */either/* the
> > permit, or the permit # needs to be enclosed in the package.? If this is
> > correct, this would mean eliminating a great deal of printing needed by
> the
> > requestor or the shipper (when permits are sent electronically, rather
> than
> > physically).
> > ? Also, since there is only one G/Y label now (#1), creating a document
> with
> > just one label will save 3/4 of the ink needed by the four label sheet.?
> In the
> > Windows world, I simply used the snipping tool to grab one label, and
> pasted it
> > into Word.? The label seemed to size itself correctly, although it's
> something
> > that needs to be checked.? Save and send/print this as a file whenever
> needed.?
> > The dimentions from a printed copy of the quad-sheet are 4 3/4' by 3
> 3/4" (12cm
> > by 9 1//2cm).? I trust that a tiny deviation will not we a problem, as
> not all
> > printers are exactly the same nor settings for them.?? I've done this
> for
> > several years, and it is greatly appreciated.? The colors are dense, and
> when
> > you have to print a hundred sheets of permits, the savings in ink, time
> and file
> > transmission/storage are significant.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ? Dave Brastow
> >
> > Tumwater, Washington (USA), where the weather is bleak, but Narcissus
> > cantabricus, N. bulbocodium v. praecox, Acis tingitana are keeping the
> > greenhouse cheerful.
> >
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