Hi, It seems that a propagation method is "true" root cutting. I'm using it, but I will have to wait next spring to know if it will have worked in my case. I read about it in the RHS website: https://rhs.org.uk/plants/19106/… (Then click on "root cutting" in the propagation paragraph.) I also would like to get different clones for seed propagation... And what about its blue-flowered form? (Not the best blue, though...) Gianluca Corazza, Italy Il giorno mer 15 dic 2021 alle ore 00:07 Wychwood Gardens & Nursery via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> ha scritto: > I’ve read in a few places this can be propagated via root cuttings, but am > unsure of how. Has anyone had success doing so? The obvious method of > propagation is crown division, which works nicely, but only yields so many. > I’m wondering whether this is one of those occasions where by “root > cuttings” actually what is meant is “crown division with bud”, rather than > a length of root inserted horizontally as per Rudbeckias, Centaureas etc. > > Thanks, > Matt > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 14 Dec 2021, at 11:00 pm, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > wrote: > > > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Lachenalia viridi (James Shao) > > 2. BX payments and membership renewal (Arnold Trachtenberg) > > 3. Lachenalia viridiflora vs. L. vanzyliae (Mary Sue Ittner) > > 4. Thank You (Mary Sue Ittner) > > 5. Re: Thank You (Marc Rosenblum) > > 6. APHIS seed import license/ permit info (Mike Rummerfield) > > 7. Re: Thank You (Mike Rummerfield) > > 8. Re: APHIS seed import license/ permit info (R Hansen) > > 9. Re: MORE APHIS seed import license/ permit info (Laura & Dave) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 07:18:53 -0800 > > From: James Shao <jamesmsss55@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lachenalia viridi > > Message-ID: > > <CAOWFk+NVheQqSPeYAnuS+VbaMJYfd72JZGNnTJL_y6Nz=i0aZQ@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Are the position of the flowers fairly consistent within the species for > > vanzyliae and viridiflora? The photos of viridiflora I see have the > > flowers held out or horizontally while vanzyliae point downwards. > > > > James > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:30:51 +0000 (UTC) > > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: [pbs] BX payments and membership renewal > > Message-ID: <985626211.823404.1639409451663@mail.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > As we near the end of the year it's a good time to get everyone's > account up to date. > > I know that some have not received BX shipments, especially the overseas > members. > > If you are not sure if you have a balance you can write me at > Arnold140@version.net. > > You can pay here for your outstanding BX's > > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/bx.html > > > > Also December is a good time to renew you membership. > > It will reduce the need for post card reminders and you will not miss > out on any BX/SX offerings. > > See here for renewal link: > > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/membership.html > > > > The final Bulb Garden of 2021 is in the printing phase and will have > your membership expiration date on the address label. > > > > The Gladiolus Field Guide? book is in transit from South Africa and I > will up date the list as the arrive here. > > > > Happy Holiday to all and safe time to all. > > Arnold > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:00:49 -0800 > > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > Subject: [pbs] Lachenalia viridiflora vs. L. vanzyliae > > Message-ID: <1f85b324-bc47-0e81-67ea-52b857e45689@mcn.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > If you look at Graham Duncan's key in his Lachenalia book it states: > > > > Perianth suberect - that leads to L. orchiodes and L. viridiflora > > > > Perianth pendulous, cernuous or widely spreading > > > > that leads to L. vanzyliae > > > >> On 12/13/2021 7:18 AM, James Shao via pbs wrote: > >> Are the position of the flowers fairly consistent within the species for > >> vanzyliae and viridiflora? The photos of viridiflora I see have the > >> flowers held out or horizontally while vanzyliae point downwards. > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:19:15 -0800 > > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: [pbs] Thank You > > Message-ID: <34c8cb4e-3282-4a9d-083d-bf54a3ff7937@mcn.org> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's > > renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number of > > the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who volunteers > > for this group, but there are a few who have served a long time and/or > > made significant contributions of time and talent to this group. > > > > Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning and > > has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an ethical > > way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the Bulb > > Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been a big > > job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as > > communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also > > shares some of his excellent photos with the group. > > > > David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting > > the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly he > > became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the wiki, > > the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot all the > > problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy. When > > ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were problems, he > > moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money and allowing > > things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many talents that > > allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he manages work much > > better. And he has always been great about communicating with his teams. > > I don't know how the group could manage without him. > > > > Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the > > President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She > > communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone who > > has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful > > information to the list. > > > > Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years. > > She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it.? She > > is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very > > seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as they > > arise. > > > > All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group. > > > > Mary Sue > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:26:04 -0800 > > From: Marc Rosenblum <ivanhoe3@charter.net> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Thank You > > Message-ID: <69f0640a-cc42-7d62-e481-c322112399b5@charter.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > >> On 12/13/2021 8:19 AM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > >> I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's > >> renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number > >> of the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who > >> volunteers for this group, but there are a few who have served a long > >> time and/or made significant contributions of time and talent to this > >> group. > >> > >> Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning > >> and has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an > >> ethical way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the > >> Bulb Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been > >> a big job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as > >> communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also > >> shares some of his excellent photos with the group. > >> > >> David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting > >> the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly > >> he became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the > >> wiki, the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot > >> all the problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy. > >> When ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were > >> problems, he moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money > >> and allowing things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many > >> talents that allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he > >> manages work much better. And he has always been great about > >> communicating with his teams. I don't know how the group could manage > >> without him. > >> > >> Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the > >> President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She > >> communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone > >> who has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful > >> information to the list. > >> > >> Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years. > >> She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it.? She > >> is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very > >> seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as > >> they arise. > >> > >> All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group. > > *Indeed!* > >> > >> > >> Mary Sue > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:35:49 -0800 > > From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: [pbs] APHIS seed import license/ permit info > > Message-ID: > > <CACvUPLeRsWFvrqZxG9Ap_PGZtP0x2hHp-XS1VEb-uD_WakL5Sw@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > With permission from Bobby Ward, NARGS Exec. Sec., representing the > North > > American Rock Garden Society (NARGS), here is a copy of the text of an > > email recently sent out to their membership regarding information that is > > pertinent to discussions we've had here on PBS listserv about the often > > convoluted intricacies of applying for APHIS permits, not to forget the > > often helpful agents at APHIS. -------------------- ? > > > > APHIS Permit Alert from NARGS 15 > > > > Beginning January 1, 2022, new Small Lots of Seed permit, used for > > importing seeds from organizations and seed collectors in Canada and > > overseas, will only be valid for a single year. This is in line with > other > > import permits; we have been fortunate to have had Small Lots of Seed > > permits that were good for three years. Currently held permits are valid > > until their expiration dates. The one-year permit will still be used for > > multiple importations. > > > > *Until the end of December, you can still apply for a new permit that > will > > be valid for three years.* You will do it through the new APHIS-PPQ > eFile > > system. The application is straightforward and simple, the confirmation > of > > your application is instantaneous, and your permit and shipping labels > > arrive minutes later. > > > > Instructions for applying for the three year SLS permit can be viewed > > here: Small Lots of Seed Permit Information > > < > https://nargs.org/sites/default/… > > > > > > For further information about the program check out the Small Lots of > Seed > > <https://www.nargs.org/small-lots-seed/> page. As always, we are here to > > help. If you have questions, use the Contact button (at the top right of > > nargs.org pages) and select Category: Seed Exchange for any problems or > > issues. > > > > Bobby Ward, NARGS Exec. Sec. > > > > Email: nargs@nc.rr.com > > > > NARGS in the U.S. is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization and thus a > > donation to NARGS may be tax deductible. > > Your financial support for NARGS programs and activities is appreciated. > > As a reminder, we do not share your email address or contact with any > > outside society or organization. > > > > NARGS Support Team > > ?2021 North American Rock Garden Society > > P.O. Box 18604, Raleigh, North Carolina 27619-8604 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 12:57:47 -0800 > > From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] Thank You > > Message-ID: > > <CACvUPLcsKSvDUebD-9YwRSDfEfq+PfoUKXq1UrY5WeSnm8r1qg@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > A big THANK YOU! to *all* of the volunteers that give so generously of > > their time and efforts that > > make PBS the outstanding organization that it is. It couldn't and > wouldn't > > be done without you. > > > > A sincere thank you, thank you, thank you, > > Mike > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 8:19 AM Mary Sue Ittner via pbs < > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > >> I was away during the time people were thanking Luminita, but Arnold's > >> renewal message inspires me to write a special thank you to a number of > >> the volunteers of this group. I am grateful to everyone who volunteers > >> for this group, but there are a few who have served a long time and/or > >> made significant contributions of time and talent to this group. > >> > >> Arnold is one of them. He has served on the Board from the beginning and > >> has taken great care to make sure everything functions in an ethical > >> way. He has done all the mailings, both of book orders and the Bulb > >> Garden. He has been treasurer for a very long time which has been a big > >> job and has meant communicating with outside sources as well as > >> communicating with whoever handles the BX and with members. He also > >> shares some of his excellent photos with the group. > >> > >> David Pilling volunteered to help me when I had the task of converting > >> the wiki when the old software was no longer being supported. Slowly he > >> became more and more involved, taking on the administration of the wiki, > >> the website, and the list. He has updated software, trouble shot all the > >> problems with the list and wiki which hasn't always been easy. When > >> ibiblio's support team stopped responding when there were problems, he > >> moved things to his own personal server, saving PBS money and allowing > >> things to run more smoothly. As a developer he has many talents that > >> allowed him to come up with ways to make the things he manages work much > >> better. And he has always been great about communicating with his teams. > >> I don't know how the group could manage without him. > >> > >> Jane McGary has been on the Board for a long time. She was once the > >> President and for a number of years has managed the membership. She > >> communicates also with non members who ask questions. And as someone who > >> has an extensive knowledge of bulbs she often posts really helpful > >> information to the list. > >> > >> Robin Hansen has been editor of the Bulb Garden for a number of years. > >> She continues to find people who will contribute articles for it. She > >> is now President as well and is obviously taking this job very > >> seriously, communicating with members and exploring alternatives as they > >> arise. > >> > >> All of us are lucky to have these four people involved with this group. > >> > >> Mary Sue > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:22:59 -0800 > > From: "R Hansen" <bulbnut@hansennursery.com> > > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] APHIS seed import license/ permit info > > Message-ID: <003901d7f067$9ae0cb00$d0a26100$@hansennursery.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Mike, > > > > Thanks very much to Bobby and to you for bringing this to our attention! > I don't mind going through the process but having to learn the new rules > through the back door so to speak is a bit frustrating. Now, if we could > just get both the EU and UK to follow the US way of importing seeds, it > would help all of us immensely. Rules are fine; I just wish there was a > tiny bit more compromise between nations. > > > > Robin Hansen > > President, PBS > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:25:44 -0800 > > From: Laura & Dave <toadlily@integra.net> > > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > Subject: Re: [pbs] MORE APHIS seed import license/ permit info > > Message-ID: <0d0e2db2-0cc7-e9f8-fd4c-04c5ffd39193@integra.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > Hi all. > > ? Thanks to NARGS and Mike for the information posted regarding > permits.? I had > > just finished getting my permit when this was all posted by NARGS and > here. > > ? One thing I noted that was missing from the information was references > to the > > old small lots of seeds permits.? These started with P37-, and appear to > no > > longer exist.? The Small lots of seed has been subsumed into the P587- > permit > > type, as a sub-category.? I have gotten a second notice that my old > permit will > > expire, after I had my new one, so there seems to be a disconnect there. > > ?? I've been trying to find out one other thing.? On the instruction > page for > > the new mailing labels (Green/Yellow), there is a statement that > */either/* the > > permit, or the permit # needs to be enclosed in the package.? If this is > > correct, this would mean eliminating a great deal of printing needed by > the > > requestor or the shipper (when permits are sent electronically, rather > than > > physically). > > ? Also, since there is only one G/Y label now (#1), creating a document > with > > just one label will save 3/4 of the ink needed by the four label sheet.? > In the > > Windows world, I simply used the snipping tool to grab one label, and > pasted it > > into Word.? The label seemed to size itself correctly, although it's > something > > that needs to be checked.? Save and send/print this as a file whenever > needed.? > > The dimentions from a printed copy of the quad-sheet are 4 3/4' by 3 > 3/4" (12cm > > by 9 1//2cm).? I trust that a tiny deviation will not we a problem, as > not all > > printers are exactly the same nor settings for them.?? I've done this > for > > several years, and it is greatly appreciated.? The colors are dense, and > when > > you have to print a hundred sheets of permits, the savings in ink, time > and file > > transmission/storage are significant. > > > > Thanks, > > ? Dave Brastow > > > > Tumwater, Washington (USA), where the weather is bleak, but Narcissus > > cantabricus, N. bulbocodium v. praecox, Acis tingitana are keeping the > > greenhouse cheerful. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 58, Issue 14 > > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>