Hi All, I also grow Brunsvigia grandiflora. It requires a hot summer to begin new growth. Mine is still to young to flower. It only comes out of spring dormancy in late summer. We had a very hot August and about a week ago it broke dormancy. Given the growth cycle of this species in the northern hemisphere and its particular requirements there’s no way to bloom this in the Summer as it happens in South Africa. Erika Toronto, Canada Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2021, at 8:00 AM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Overwintering Caladium bicolor? (Carol) > 2. Re: Growing Alliums from seed (Jane McGary) > 3. Crinum propagation (edward mccaleb) > 4. Exchange Announcements (Luminita Vollmer) > 5. Luminita and Labor Day (Mike) > 6. Re: Luminita and Labor Day (Jancy Lovell) > 7. Re: PBS 476, 435 Biarum Provenance (Robert Parks) > 8. Re: Growing Alliums from seed (Maggie Mowbray) > 9. Zephyranthes lindleyana? (Rimmer de Vries) > 10. Re: Crinum propagation (P. C. Andrews) > 11. Re: Crinum propagation (Tim Eck) > 12. Re: Off season blooming (Mary Sue Ittner) > 13. Re: Crinum propagation (Robert Lauf) > 14. Allium from seed (Johannes-Ulrich Urban) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 07:49:52 -0600 > From: "Carol" <carolisa7@comcast.net> > To: <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Overwintering Caladium bicolor? > Message-ID: <003001d7a0ca$948fd0d0$bdaf7270$@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, I have a medium-sized Caladium bicolor that has been growing outside > this summer. Would like to try to save it to plant outside again next > summer. I live in hardiness zone 5b, so I know it will need to come inside, > but was wondering if anyone has had success with a particular method for > overwintering caladiums? Thanks in advance! > > > > Carol B. > > Colorado > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 09:34:46 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Maggie Mowbray via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Growing Alliums from seed > Message-ID: <010f6f5b-641d-6e97-cbc2-3ed8600c6701@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Maggie, you haven't said which species of Allium you're growing from > seed. If they're the large types sold with other Dutch bulbs for general > garden use, they can eventually develop bulbs up to almost the size of a > tennis ball. If they are smaller species, such as we might place in a > rock garden, the bulbs may get no larger than the "small grape" size you > mention. The large ones need rich soil to develop their flowering size > reasonably quickly, so if you have them in pots, don't neglect to > fertilize them while they're in growth. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > >> On 9/2/2021 4:17 PM, Maggie Mowbray via pbs wrote: >> Dear Jane >> Thank you so much. I will do exactly that. >> I just love Alliums but it is very difficult to buy mature bulbs in New Zealand. >> I did manage to get a few bulbs this Autumn but they were the size of a small grape. >> I have them in pots should I keep them there until they are bigger? >> Thanks >> Maggie >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:38:20 +0000 (UTC) > From: edward mccaleb <ewdmccaleb@yahoo.com> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Crinum propagation > Message-ID: <1029984381.1366145.1630687100535@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi,Does anyone have advice regarding propagating Crinumasiaticum? > There is a very large one (5? high and around) growingnearby in a minimally tended right of way between a sidewalk and a street. Itreceives filtered sunlight and is irrigated naturally by rain.? This year, there has been a lot of that. ?I believe C. asiaticum is supposed to be onlyhardy in Zone 9 locations, typically Florida, however this one has prosperedfor at least 25 years in an 8B location in se N. Carolina. > > Bulbils have begun to form on the flowering heads. At what pointcan the bulbils be removed to be individually propagated? Is there a specific physicalappearance that identifies them as ready to be detached? ??Should each bulbil be placed on the surfaceof the potting medium or submerged below the surface? Should the bulbil bescarified at all?? What light conditionsare beneficial to germination, full sun or filtered light? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions/assistance. > > Edward > > (at the confluence of the Cape Fear River and the AtlanticOcean) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 11:45:22 -0500 > From: Luminita Vollmer <pbslv.xchange@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>, Luminita > Vollmer <pbslv.xchange@gmail.com> > Subject: [pbs] Exchange Announcements > Message-ID: > <CALXf-BJ+dhVJfyJBSC14KWwaP7DJhhOhDYQeyEudqtjpVBeZrA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dear all > > A few announcements to all: > > 1. > Exchange BX/SX-476 has all been mailed out. If you don't get anything in > the next few days, please let me know, I can look or give you the tracking > number to check on the package. > > 2. > Exchange 477 is in the works next. > > 3. > I am opening the donations period, as several people already sent me > donations. I will accept donations until Sept 25. Whatever I get by then > will be in the next and hopefully last exchange of the year. > > If you have any questions please send me an e-mail. > Thank you to all the donors for exchange 476; to all those that > participated in the exchange, I hope you are happy with the items, but do > let me know if not. Maybe I can make it up somehow. > > We have a few items left over, I will relist those after this weekend. > > Thank you all > Luminita > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 10:05:54 -0700 > From: Mike <mike.lowitz@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Luminita and Labor Day > Message-ID: > <CABtzRW=Oz4Le+-fzOsh3pVtKhaikeuZ+QUgpcnyOgtRn76sY+Q@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > As we head into the Labor Day weekend in the States. > I just got another update from > Luminita. I wanted to thank her for all the effort/ labor/thought she > always puts into our BX/SX exchanges. They certainly seem to have grown in > complexity of late. > > Thanks!, for working through the organization and distribution of the > exchanges, throughout the year! > It?s a volunteer position that takes an immense effort and personal time. > > Luminita you do an amazing job! > > Mike > San Diego > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 10:28:16 -0700 > From: Jancy Lovell <nectarinejl1@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Luminita and Labor Day > Message-ID: <1C8DD0F5-D807-42F5-9A6A-90651869968A@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I?d like to second Mikes e mail!!! > Great job!!! > Jan > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 3, 2021, at 10:06 AM, Mike via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?As we head into the Labor Day weekend in the States. >> I just got another update from >> Luminita. I wanted to thank her for all the effort/ labor/thought she >> always puts into our BX/SX exchanges. They certainly seem to have grown in >> complexity of late. >> >> Thanks!, for working through the organization and distribution of the >> exchanges, throughout the year! >> It?s a volunteer position that takes an immense effort and personal time. >> >> Luminita you do an amazing job! >> >> Mike >> San Diego >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 11:31:51 -0700 > From: Robert Parks <trolleypup@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS 476, 435 Biarum Provenance > Message-ID: > <CAGp9_p=3AaMa76WkKQJ_xym-fwvLfBTXnDTPro-E0y2iC_C2Vw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > For what it is worth, the Vickery number is a sequential catalog number > from Kurt Vickery's annual seed list, so you would need to know what > catalog year the number is from to pursue information. > > As for location coding, well, Mediterranean & Middle East...that's what I > put in my spreadsheet. > > Someday there will be flowers? > > Robert > > <http://avg.com/email-signature/…> > Virus-free. > http://www.avg.com/ > <http://avg.com/email-signature/…> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:31 PM Dan Pogust via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> Hi there! >> >> Does anyone know any information on Biarum sp. PBS 476, Biarum sp. (Vickery >> #63), and/or Biarum sp. PBS 435? >> >> I color-code the tags of my geophytes based on region of the world and >> these are the only ones I can't place. I've also been trying to be better >> about recording provenance/data for my plants, so if you have any >> information about their origin, collection country, source, or even >> potential sp/affinis I would be very grateful! >> >> Thanks, >> Dan Pogust >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:55:37 +1200 > From: Maggie Mowbray <littlecakehome@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Growing Alliums from seed > Message-ID: <B67FCE88-80F7-4D93-81F7-D561D0E55876@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thank you so much Janey > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4/09/2021, at 4:28 AM, Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> ?Maggie, you haven't said which species of Allium you're growing from seed. If they're the large types sold with other Dutch bulbs for general garden use, they can eventually develop bulbs up to almost the size of a tennis ball. If they are smaller species, such as we might place in a rock garden, the bulbs may get no larger than the "small grape" size you mention. The large ones need rich soil to develop their flowering size reasonably quickly, so if you have them in pots, don't neglect to fertilize them while they're in growth. >> >> Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA >> >>>> On 9/2/2021 4:17 PM, Maggie Mowbray via pbs wrote: >>> Dear Jane >>> Thank you so much. I will do exactly that. >>> I just love Alliums but it is very difficult to buy mature bulbs in New Zealand. >>> I did manage to get a few bulbs this Autumn but they were the size of a small grape. >>> I have them in pots should I keep them there until they are bigger? >>> Thanks >>> Maggie >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 15:37:50 -0500 > From: Rimmer de Vries <rdevries@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Zephyranthes lindleyana? > Message-ID: <17E7E89A-95E3-418C-8BF8-995A7B24FC6B@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > This came as seed in BX 401 as Zephyranthes lindleyana > But is looks more like ?Sunset Strain? to me. Any thoughts on identity? > > I missed the full open stage, closing up for the day > > > > Rimmer > In S Kentucky > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:02:31 +0000 > From: "P. C. Andrews" <pcamusa@hotmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum propagation > Message-ID: > <BN6PR03MB257997C040503415F4B6B419B7CF9@BN6PR03MB2579.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Hi Edward- They are pretty easy. The covering will usually split, depending on cultivar and conditions. I usually wait until the bulbils are easily removed from the stalk or even until they have dropped to the ground. My approach is to press them about halfway into soil, water occasionally, keep warm, and then wait. Some may take a while before you see growth. Don't feel that you have to be too nice to them. > -Phil > ________________________________ > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of edward mccaleb via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 12:38 PM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: edward mccaleb <ewdmccaleb@yahoo.com> > Subject: [pbs] Crinum propagation > > Hi,Does anyone have advice regarding propagating Crinumasiaticum? > There is a very large one (5? high and around) growingnearby in a minimally tended right of way between a sidewalk and a street. Itreceives filtered sunlight and is irrigated naturally by rain. This year, there has been a lot of that. I believe C. asiaticum is supposed to be onlyhardy in Zone 9 locations, typically Florida, however this one has prosperedfor at least 25 years in an 8B location in se N. Carolina. > > Bulbils have begun to form on the flowering heads. At what pointcan the bulbils be removed to be individually propagated? Is there a specific physicalappearance that identifies them as ready to be detached? Should each bulbil be placed on the surfaceof the potting medium or submerged below the surface? Should the bulbil bescarified at all? What light conditionsare beneficial to germination, full sun or filtered light? > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions/assistance. > > Edward > > (at the confluence of the Cape Fear River and the AtlanticOcean) > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 19:20:54 -0400 > From: Tim Eck <timeck17582@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum propagation > Message-ID: > <CA+ur5iauTRaBmbEk4OSjYwebYyncCX8Z4ZtyWOFRKk689mm31g@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I use a technique suggested by another member where you fasten an organza > bag ( > https://amazon.com/dp/B07ZH84TV2/… > ) over the developing seed head and just wait until it shatters. > Then set the seed on top of potting soil until they put out their strange > little tendrils that form the new bulb at the tip. I don't transplant them > until after the original seed dries up. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: crinum seeds.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 426692 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:51:08 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Off season blooming > Message-ID: <b7f7ce13-2a26-fa06-c6b3-9d8fdf3e3ea2@mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Since no one has responded on the list to this, I looked up our topic of > the week in 2003 which was about this. This was my introduction and you > can sort by subject to get replies. > > pbslist/2003-October/vbcgd3h2el59631ouv2l81tpd0.html > > It seems that buying tender winter growing bulbs at the wrong time of > the year when they are sold by some sources may result in flowering that > year, but often the next year they either don't come back or revert to > the season they prefer. Some bulbs (Boophone disticha is an example) > grow in both the summer and winter rainfall parts of South Africa. I > tried to turn a summer rainfall one into a winter one and had no > success. And the same with a Paramongaia weberbaueri that I thought > should grow in summer, but had other ideas. > > One exception for me has been Brunsvigia grandiflora. It flowers in > summer in South Africa, but when it flowers for me it flowers in winter > and is dormant in summer. > > I think we have all had experiences when a bulb flowers at an unusual > time (Geissorhiza imbricata this August), but for me that has often been > a one time event. > > Mary Sue > > >> On 9/2/2021 1:48 PM, Scott Preusser via pbs wrote: >> I am wondering if anyone has experience in having bulbs bloom way off season or manipulating them to bloom off season? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 01:50:20 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Tim Eck via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum propagation > Message-ID: <1711186875.2819545.1630720220926@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > If this plant has become naturalized there, have you looked around the immediate vicinity to see if any plantlets are already growing nearby?? You might get lucky and save yourself a year or two! > Bob? ?E TN > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:33:25 +0200 > From: Johannes-Ulrich Urban <johannes-ulrich-urban@t-online.de> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Allium from seed > Message-ID: <B663D8EE-8E99-4F00-8045-4CE0E7536B09@t-online.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ?Hello Maggie, > > Welcome to the Pacific Bulb Society, I understand that you have recently subscribed. > > The only thing I would like to add to the replies you got from other members is that seedling bulbs do benefit very much from fertilizing. Bulbs in general are hungry plants. Especially towards the end of the growing season when the bulbs prepare themselves to go dormant I have found a high potassium, medium phosphate and low nitrogen (tomato type) fertilizer has a very good effect. I fertilize all my pot grown bulbs three times during the growing season. Once to give them a good start, next time before flowering and then again after flowering. > If you are new to this list you may not yet know about the WIKI. There are not only lots and lots of pictures but also useful information on how to grow bulbs, all contributed by members from around the world. > Here is a link https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > Scoll down and start looking under -how to grow bulbs- > > Happy growing > > Uli > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 55, Issue 4 > ********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
