Pots vs Free Range

James Shao via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Sun, 28 Aug 2022 15:50:31 PDT
What about cutting the bottom off of 5-15 gallon nursery cans and sinking
them into the bed to the rim and planting within those? That's a barrier a
good 12-15" underground with an open bottom for drainage.

James

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 3:34 PM Jane McGary via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:

> When I moved to a new home about 11 years ago, I put my formerly potted
> bulb collection into raised beds in a "Mediterranean house" (overhead
> protection, wire mesh sides). I thought it would be, as John says,
> freeing to just enjoy them as if they were in a garden or wild setting.
> Having been through this, I can tell you that it is not easy to keep
> them identified, because the labels go astray during weeding and cleanup
> and added topdressing. Moreover, some of the species die, leaving their
> gravestones, and I can't tell which of the labels refers to the one
> genus member in that vicinity, although I numbered the bricks supporting
> the raised beds and noted the locations of things. Worst of all, certain
> plants became quite invasive by both seed and vegetative increase,making
> maintenance difficult and choking out smaller items. The most invasive
> were California themids (Brodiaea, etc.) and Spanish "hoop petticoat"
> Narcissus species. It was also more difficult to manage moisture,
> because groundwater came up in some parts of the beds and caused some
> rot. About 4 years ago I lifted everything in one of the beds (which are
> 40 feet long by 8 feet wide) and moved them to plunged pots. Last summer
> I repotted them all, horrible job in intense heat. This summer I've just
> finished lifting half of the other bed, a space 20x8 feet, sifting the
> soil to remove the invasive species, replanting in a sensible way, and
> topping up the soil. Robert Parks in California kindly offered to take
> the themids for a public planting. A narcissi mix will appear in the BX.
> I hope to have the time and energy to move the other species to the bulb
> lawn or shrubbery; have already put Tulipa montana (stoloniferous; some
> in BX) into an open raised bed. In the revised bulb-house bed, there are
> 2 or 3 rows of plunged pots in the front for small, rare plants, a row
> of taller miscellany behind that, a few rows of Calochortus species
> behind that, and at the rear some vigorous summer-dormant irises.
>
> It is not interesting, much less pretty, in August. Exactly one species
> (Alstroemeria diluta) is flowering today. In my experience, many kinds
> of bulbs do best with direct planting, particularly Calochortus (which
> descend more deeply every year, leaving a "neck" as a route to the
> surface). Plants with vigorous annual feeder roots, such as many dryland
> irises, do best here too, or I sometimes put them in mesh pots which are
> plunged. Many tulips make "droppers" to get deeper. Erythroniums also
> have structures that pull the bulbs deeper. There are big Fritillaria
> species that are not suitable for pots, though they don't seem to "drop."
>
> So today half the bulb house looks civilized, and the other half (almost
> all potted) just needs the straw removed. When the weather cools and
> fall rains arrive, I'll water everything, and about 6 weeks later give
> it all some soluble fertilizer. The "soil" for direct planting is the
> coarsest builder's sand I can find, so artificial feeding is necessary;
> the potting soil has some organic content.
>
> And that is how I spend my retirement years.
>
> Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
>
> On 8/28/2022 3:00 PM, Michael Loos via pbs wrote:
> > I think your last statement is telling..."it might be freeing to just not
> > worry about such matters any more and enjoy them as they succeed or fail
> in
> > their new environment."  However, I would place them far apart enough to
> > separate and identify, when needed.  Can you create a pleasant picture
> when
> > everything is dormant?  A rocky terrain with a dry riverbed or
> interesting
> > view?  Does that even matter?
> >
> > Your other issue may be creating hybrids where you want
> > identifiable species.  As you said, and I agree with, keeping some in
> pots
> > and then, most definitely, placing some in the ground - all sound
> > judgement.  Regardless of beauty, too many plants like to romp a little
> too
> > vigorously.  It does sound like a fun project!
> >
> > Michael
> > Interlaken, NY Z6 or so
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 5:26 PM John Wickham via pbs <
> > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> >> This idea freaks me out, but I need to consider it...I built a raised
> bed
> >> for my bulb collection and am ready to plant. A friend recommend that I
> >> should plant my bulb collection Free Range instead of in pots. They
> would
> >> be grouped by type and requirements, but they would be free to wander as
> >> they need and especially go as deep as they need. Highly productive
> bulbs
> >> would still be in pots (I'm looking at you, Moraea polystachya). The
> >> collection consists of California and South African bulbs. No
> Amaryllids,
> >> all on the small side.
> >>
> >> So as a collector, this is freaking me out a little. I'd lose control
> over
> >> identification in a dormant state. On the other hand, it might be
> freeing
> >> to just not worry about such matters any more and enjoy them as they
> >> succeed or fail in their new environment.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> John WickhamLos Angeles, cA
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