Pots vs Free Range

fritchick via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Sun, 28 Aug 2022 19:49:31 PDT
I wanted to chime in and say how much I enjoyed this thread and appreciate
the information and ideas kicking around. I am in the planning stages
(which means the idea has been floating around in my head, nothing else)
for a bulb bed at my "new" garden.  We've been here for two years and I
bought a few hardy bulbs with me I was successful with at my last place and
have lost them here.  I'm pretty sure it's our year-round rain that has
done them in and clay-y soil.  I'm hoping to do some type of sand bed and
rig up a cover for it to keep it dry when needed. I've got the standard
critter issues (voles, mice, rabbits) and have plans for wire/mesh around,
atop, etc.
I REALLY like MarySue's double-pot solution.  This seems brilliant to me.
So easy to be able to access what you need to and everyone nearby needn't
be disturbed, etc.

It's not just redwoods!  I learned the hard way that once you begin
planting beneath a mature set of spruce trees, if you sprinkle even a
minimum amount of water around, here come those feeder roots.  I had a heck
of a time figuring out what would work in deep shade under two very closely
grown 30' spruce trees that had been limbed up nicely, but were very
thirsty.  I had to abandon the thought of arisaema after losing some
treasures and work with what will tolerate massive root competition.
Interestingly, erythronium kicked butt there.

Jane, I cannot imagine doing what you are doing with those beds.  My hat is
off.

Bridget

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 8:26 PM John Wickham via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:

>  I fear the nearby Zauchneria, which has formed dense mats under the
> nearby shrubs. The California bulbs may appreciate that companionship,
> though.
> Fascinating to hear about redwood roots.
>
>     On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 04:41:32 PM PDT, Robert Parks via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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>  Wow! Redwoods are crafty, so far the only thing that has been invading
> pots
> are Psoralea roots (Koolaid Bush)...the last thing I needed when lifting
> pots of miniature Oxalis with bulbs similar in size to the nitrogen fixing
> nodules on the tree roots.
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> On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 4:35 PM Mary Sue Ittner via pbs <
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> > Like Jane I once had some free range beds and they were nice for a year
> > or two and then there were mostly a lot of some things with other things
> > gone. My solution was to replant and this time plant in plastic pots
> > placed in plastic pots of the same size with gravel/sand around the
> > pots. Then I can lift up a single pot or two that needs repotting or to
> > share. This was freeing as if I don't get around to repotting usually
> > something still flowers. And the pots don't need as much water and the
> > soil temperature is better than the pots exposed to sun. And I planted
> > two or three different things in each pot (with different storage organs
> > so I could tell them apart). I could still have thems which have done
> > really well without getting out of hand. I even have Cyclamen in these
> > pots that I haven't repotted in a long time, especially since they often
> > start flowering before I get around to it. My biggest problem has been
> > that I live in the redwoods and the roots travel to better soil and
> > moisture. Before I realized I needed to check every year they had
> > created nests (sometimes taking up to 1/2 of the pot) with bulbs resting
> > on the top with no soil underneath. And if I repotted with better soil,
> > that pot would be targeted. Redwoods are very smart. So every year I
> > have to pull the pots out to check for roots and put them back. But that
> > shouldn't be a problem for John.
> >
> > Mary Sue
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