Thanks for the information I have done the baggie Mathis and had germination but transitioning to pots I’ve lost the entire lot. Darm stated he has used uncut bleach to sterilize the soil before planting the sprouted seed. In going to give this a try to see if that eliminates the issue. I’m just outside of Buffalo NY, high humidity in the late summer along with rain I do have a few locations in my gardens that should provide the right dryness conditions for western American species or hybrids. It’s the transition that is my issue right now. So hopefully Darm’s suggestion will be the solution (pun intended) to my problem. I think I’m going to try both pot and baggie method inside. In addition plant some outside in the fall and compare the results and use that method going forward. Eric Duma Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2022, at 2:20 PM, stephen willson via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Eric, > > My experiences of growing Western American species and hybrids agree with those of Gordon's. That said, I live about 60 miles north of Gordon in the PNW so this is perhaps not surprising. Where are you located, Eric, as your local conditions may factor into success or failure? (I know that the higher humidity in the US eastern States is not liked by the Western American species, for example.) I have kelloggii growing here that are just now pushing up their first leaves from a mid-September sowing. With kelloggii I find that it can germinate quite quickly to form a tiny bulb but that pushing up the first leaf can take a while longer. I agree that parryi is more of an IH germinator. I have seeds with first leaves 1-2cm tall from a mid-October sowing. > > I am less sure about the cultural needs for Lilium washintonianum. My understanding is that this species needs to have more of a cold period than do kelloggii and parryi before pushing up its first leaf. I currently have seeds sown in flats in a cold-frame that were kept warm for September-December and I will bring them back into the warmth in March. > > As Gordon has mentioned, if you let us know a bit more about what you have tried in the past we may be able to help further. Tell us where you are located too, as this may be a factor. > > Hope this helps, > > Steve > Bow, WA Zone 8b > > ________________________________ >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 9:33 AM Eric via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> Hi all >> I have grown many lilium species and hybrids from seed but I have had >> little success with Western North American species. I’m trying again with >> these two Lilium. >> Any suggestions are appreciated. >> Thanks >> Eric Duma >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com//… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>