Wildlife damage recovery

Jan Jeddeloh via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Sun, 12 Mar 2023 16:40:57 PDT
Are the gates intentionally being propped open by the neighbors so the deer will go in and eat there rather than in their yards?  A rather tacky move if that’s the case.

Jan

> On Mar 12, 2023, at 2:58 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, that what we have on the driveway entering the reserve.
> But there are a number of other gates around the reserve that we've found propped open at times.
> Arnold
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Glattstein via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> To: Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Cc: Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 5:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Wildlife damage recovery
> 
> Can a cattle guard be installed on the gateway, Arnold? Deer won't cross it.
> 
> Judy
> 
> On 3/12/2023 3:38 PM, Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs wrote:
>> I was on the Board of Directors for ten years at:
>>    https://flatrockbrook.org/about-us/…
>> We installed a deer exclosure fence to allow the forest to mature naturally.  The deer were influencing the habitat by removing any young growth that provided habitat for many birds and other creatures.
>> We had a consultant from Rutgers University  who  are the host of the State Cooperative Extension Service.
>> We did get some blow back from neighbors who felt that the fence was pushing the deer onto their property.
>> Our consultant stated that deer  have 3-5 mile walk and rarely stay in one location for more than 1/2 day.
>> So far the fence has worked out well.
>> Biggest problem is the neighbors are propping open the gates to let the deer in to the Nature Center.
>> Arnold
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Mazer via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
>> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
>> Cc: Mark Mazer <markemazer@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 3:09 pm
>> Subject: Re: [pbs] Wildlife damage recovery
>> 
>> " If you have a country property that is fenced to keep dogs in (as I did
>> for many years), and if the dogs are large and predatory, deer will stay
>> out."
>> Jane,
>> Not more than 60 seconds ago a beautiful mature doe (she had twins last
>> season) sauntered across our unfenced 20+ acre field maybe 100 feet past
>> the veggie garden and small orchard. Ever watchful, Fred the Giant
>> Schnauzer gave his deer specific warning from inside the house and the doe
>> pranced into the swamp. We have a 1500 square foot fenced-in run off of the
>> kitchen door for the beastie; his bark keeps the riff-raff away.
>> 
>> Best,
>> m
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 2:46 PM Judy Glattstein via pbs <
>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I use Milorganite. Blood meal, a slaughterhouse waste product getting
>>> ever more costly, is a nitrogen fertilizer.
>>> 
>>> Deer are so well fed in our gardens, here in the Garden State of New
>>> Jersey, that only the first year do does have a single fawn. After that,
>>> twins are common, even - occasionally - triplets.
>>> 
>>> Judy
>>> 
>>> On 3/12/2023 1:53 PM, Lorena Gorsche via pbs wrote:
>>>> In Lake Oswego, Oregon, I sprinkle Blood Meal or Fish Bone Meal around my
>>>> roses, etc.  the deer live here year around, eat my next door neighbours
>>>> roses, etc. The roses love it and the deer don’t. Lightly sprinkle weekly
>>>> sometimes livery two weeks. I’m
>>>> 
>>>> Lorena PNW
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 8:27 AM Mark Mazer via pbs <
>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> " If you check out where dogs continue to roam freely you will not find
>>>>> deer."
>>>>> 
>>>>> That has not been my experience in Perquimans County where there is no
>>>>> leash law.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Mazer
>>>>> Hertford, NC
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 8:51 PM Judy Glattstein via pbs <
>>>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> NJ has a bow season, shotgun with solid slug, a sabot, and black
>>> powder.
>>>>>> We have a hunter who uses a black powder gun. He gets one or two deer
>>>>>> off our property each year. We are gifted back strap, roast, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I still, almost every day, see a group of 5 deer on their
>>>>>> peregrinations. But it is with pleasure that we eat delicious locavore
>>>>>> free range venison.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Judy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/11/2023 8:17 PM, Marc Rosenblum via pbs wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/11/2023 12:12 PM, Diane via pbs wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vancouver Island has no coyotes but lots of cougars.  They aren’t
>>>>>>>> generally shot.  When a cougar is roaming near a school, the children
>>>>>>>> are kept inside.  And the cougar that entered someone’s apartment was
>>>>>>>> just moved to a wild area.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They don’t manage to keep our deer in check, though.  When I was
>>>>>>>> young, about 1945, we used to make special trips to see deer in the
>>>>>>>> forest.  I don’t know what encouraged them to overrun our cities.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Diane
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> What encourages deer to overrun our cities is nonsensical hunting
>>>>>>> regulations which allow them to overpopulate. I am not a hunter and I
>>>>>>> do not own a gun; so I am not a gun rights fanatic.
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