Laura, I have many deer on my property; but, no predation problem. I have 4 feet of deer netting suspended on a wire over 6' of welded wire mesh surrounding my garden. Marc Rosenblum On 3/11/2023 12:04 PM, Laura Grant via pbs wrote: > Here in Niagara peninsula we have about 20 deer roaming the area just > around my garden and eating everything from Cedars to fruit trees, > rhododendrons, azaleas and vegetables. I use a spray, predator eyes in the > evening and ultrasonic devices. > None of that works when there is a snow cover and they are hungry. > Unfortunately, the papers reported about 75 coyotes were shot by "rednecks" > last summer and tossed in the river so they could not trace the offenders. > They are the only predators in our area. > We have restrictions on deer hunting instead of all out cull. In Germany > they have deer too, but the forest rangers keep a strict control of the > population so they do not get out of hand. Can we not learn from people > that found solutions to this problem? > > In Toronto raccoons are protected species. It is estimated that the raccoon > population in the City of Toronto far exceeds the human population. > Damage to property by these animals is huge. Our decks, roofs, and patios > are littered with their droppings. On some outdoor patios you may be having > dinner while the raccoons are watching you eat. Doctors have written in the > local papers warning of dangers from their excrement but nothing was done > about it. We are not even allowed to trap and relocate. > > I love animals of all kinds and do not wish to give the impression that I > hate them. However, my battle to cultivate ornamental plants, harvest > "some" fruits and vegetables is a full time job. > Laura > Niagara on the Lake > > > > > On Sat., Mar. 11, 2023, 2:23 p.m. Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs, < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> Where I live. Just outside of NYC we’ve not had deer predators for at >> least 75 years. >> When I moved here 35 years ago you never saw a deer. Now they are spotted >> almost daily >> Arnold >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> On Saturday, March 11, 2023, 2:10 PM, Cody H via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >> I think high deer numbers often have less to do with overdevelopment and >> more to do with predator suppression. >> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 10:19 AM Arnold Trachtenberg via pbs < >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >> >>> Brian >>> I’ve had to deer fencing completely surrounding the rear garden. Deer >> were >>> coming in couple of time a week and eating everything. Fruit trees. >> Potted >>> ghost peppers. >>> I think as we overdevelop properties they become more comfortable around >>> humans. >>> We have Lyme disease here which they carry on ticks that feed on them >>> Arnold >>> >>> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023, 1:04 PM, Brian Whyer via pbs < >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi >>> For 10+ years I have grown Camassia leichtlinii subsp. suksdorfii >>> 'Electra' to the extent I was worried about the numbers. It doesn't seed >>> but is a vigorous grower and my original single bulb from Avon Bulbs is >>> now 2+ square meters of dense growth, after separating out a few years >>> back and replanting. Last year I had a little spring damage on the new >>> growth but hardly noticeable when they were in flower, this year nearly >>> all the early growth has been eaten down to the ground/mulch. Deer >>> (which we have) are not supposed to eat Camassia but a few nights back I >>> happened to see a security light had been triggered during the night. I >>> now know we have visits from Badgers too; nice to watch, BUT!. There is >>> a well worn track along the hedge on the road side of our garden, >>> outside the chain link fencing. Now i know why; but it is turning the >>> corner we live on and coming in the open gateway presumably. Can't see >>> any tunnels; yet. >>> >>> My question is will they recover enough to flower this year, assuming no >>> more grazing? I have put plastic imitation chain link over them at >>> present held up a bit by empty pots. Don't really want to fence that >>> bed; but I could. Another plant in the same bed loses its flowers each >>> year to grazing. (forget name; like evergreen grape hyacinth) Time to >>> think about a secure garden ?? >>> >>> Brian, SE UK Chilterns >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> PBS Forum latest: >>> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >>> PBS Forum latest: >>> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum latest: >> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> >> PBS Forum latest: >> https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… >> > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…