I belong to many plant groups and they are slowly starting to move to online because of costs. I'm an old timer too and enjoy going back to my printed copy for reference and such. One thing to think about, if it downloadable what's to stop someone from reselling the info that the writers have written. Make sure there is some sort of protection from this happening. And hacker can just take the info and not be a member. Just a thought. Ann from SoCal On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 4:22 PM <pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. The Bulb Garden (Jane McGary) > 2. Re: The Bulb Garden (Mark Mazer) > 3. Re: The Bulb Garden (Vince Scheidt) > 4. Re: The Bulb Garden (suncoastpearl@gmail.com) > 5. Re: The Bulb Garden (James Shao) > 6. Re: The Bulb Garden (Kathy Purdy) > 7. Re: The Bulb Garden (David Maltby) > 8. Re: The Bulb Garden (Erik van Lennep) > 9. Re: The Bulb Garden (Eugene Zielinski) > 10. Re: The Bulb Garden (Mary Gorton) > 11. Re: The Bulb Garden (Christine Doud) > 12. Re: The Bulb Garden (Rodney Barton) > 13. Re: The Bulb Garden (Robert Parks) > 14. Re: The Bulb Garden (Steve Marak) > 15. Re: The Bulb Garden (Kelly Irvin) > 16. Re: The Bulb Garden (Nan Sterman) > 17. Re: The Bulb Garden (Rick Rodich) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:47:32 -0800 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <b4a17c25-5a2a-450a-bb46-820dcb73592a@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > produce copy. > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > acceptable? > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > Thank you! > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:54:06 -0500 > From: Mark Mazer <markemazer@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > < > CAAvPRWuqqFODsGAm1zaq_npHUNTjBXT5XP43-1qFcs6KXTVeSA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Makes sense to me. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 12:04:05 -0800 > From: Vince Scheidt <vince.scheidt@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > <CAFoKAwS6WkQrE1DsHf6-hv+D1+0cYzv04szU+6bmEBmix53= > qA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I prefer reading these online. So I support transitioning to a > paperless format. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 11:54?AM Mark Mazer via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Makes sense to me. > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > Bulb > > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense > as > > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > > produce copy. > > > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on > the > > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > > acceptable? > > > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > PBS Forum latest: > > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 12:20:15 -0800 > From: <suncoastpearl@gmail.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <00be01dc71ee$0df027b0$29d07710$@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Online and the direction you're moving makes sense to me. > Jo Canning > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> On Behalf Of Mark > Mazer via pbs > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2025 11:54 > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Mark Mazer <markemazer@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > > Makes sense to me. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > > Bulb Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty > > in obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are > > the causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest > > expense as printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS > > officers and board of directors have discussed the possibility of > > putting the BG entirely online. At present, back issues are archived on > the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on > > the board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > http://www.avg.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 12:23:45 -0800 > From: James Shao <jamesmsss55@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > <CAOWFk+N-z=6mjKxFBpR_=79SO3qGDpWOH6= > 5mFf9D8cHLC3TDw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Online would be preferred for me. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 11:47 AM Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:26:07 -0500 > From: Kathy Purdy <kopurdy@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > < > CAK9Z5G+d7K7HTgPGi0Ef9Bus-zLBsrkOJ65OWDNG4+jwAjVm6A@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I am one of those who joined primarily for the bulb exchange. I'm not sure > I was even aware that there was a print publication when I joined. An > online newsletter would be fine with me as well. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > -- > Kathy Purdy > 2018 Winner of *two* Garden Writers Association > Silver Awards of Achievement for Blog Writing and Newsletter Article > http://www.coldclimategardening.com/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:39:25 -0500 > From: David Maltby <dmaltby64@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > < > CALdM-dAmyirgKy-shX2Au4ctovP_P6y5JboGyPrm0+Epvxk5gA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I am of an age that I enjoy the printed format but I entirely support a > move to the online format. > There are advantages to doing so and anything to relieve the work of the > editors and everyone who contributes. > David Maltby > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 22:03:03 +0100 > From: Erik van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > < > CACLJm6pdBSfbY9R006-w947AJ49R6XBroTgOryKepLAk78TroQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I would actually prefer NOT causing the extra costs and trees of printing > and posting hard copies. > I'm all for having it online. > > Erik van Lennep > > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 at 21:39, David Maltby via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > I am of an age that I enjoy the printed format but I entirely support a > > move to the online format. > > There are advantages to doing so and anything to relieve the work of the > > editors and everyone who contributes. > > David Maltby > > > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 2:47?PM Jane McGary via pbs < > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > Bulb > > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense > as > > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > > produce copy. > > > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on > the > > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > > acceptable? > > > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > PBS Forum latest: > > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 21:47:07 +0000 > From: Eugene Zielinski <eez55@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <131c037f-0543-52a9-e0c1-145773eaeef3@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I'm a long time member and I am quite accustomed to printed media. But I > like the idea of an entirely on-line Bulb Garden. I would be viewing it > primarily on my Android phone. > Two requests: > 1. When a new Bulb Garden is available, promptly notify both the email > list and the forum. > 2. Please make it cell phone friendly -- no teeny tiny print that > requires a lot of screen fiddling to read, make it easy to access, etc. > > Eugene Zielinski > Prescott Valley, AZ > USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Sent: Dec 20, 2025 12:47 PM > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > Subject: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board of > directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely online. > At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. Preparing copy > suitable for online posting would be easier than formatting a print > edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous additions, rather than > deadlines, might encourage more authors to produce copy. > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a printed > newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main incentive to paid > membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. The PBS has been > structured from its origin as an online organization, working through the > website and its famous wiki, this email list, and now the forum. Would > moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be acceptable? > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > Thank you! > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 22:53:14 +0000 (UTC) > From: Mary Gorton <mgorton01@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <1086778218.1602301.1766271194500@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I would be very happy with online publication, anything that makes it > easier for those contributing.? I like the exchanges. > Mary GortonWilmington, Delaware > > On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 02:47:36 PM EST, Jane McGary via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > produce copy. > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > acceptable? > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > Thank you! > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:16:13 -0800 > From: Christine Doud <christinedoud@shasta.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <E337B551-72B8-442C-981F-3C72823506AB@shasta.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I?m all for online. Easier. Way cheaper. > Christine Doud > Santa Maria, CA > > > On Dec 20, 2025, at 2:53?PM, Mary Gorton via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ? I would be very happy with online publication, anything that makes it > easier for those contributing. I like the exchanges. > > Mary GortonWilmington, Delaware > > > > On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 02:47:36 PM EST, Jane McGary via > pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) > From: Rodney Barton <rbartontx@yahoo.com> > To: Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <1776447434.2575327.1766273406709@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Online only would be fine with me. > Rodney Barton > On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 01:47:40 PM CST, Jane McGary via pbs > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > produce copy. > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > acceptable? > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > Thank you! > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:32:00 -0800 > From: Robert Parks <trolleypup@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > <CAGp9_p=coW8B+o+dZ0m-3V6tG4eULsD5EZFpUjt= > tA12+QJdgw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Online works well for me. If it isn't too complex, generate a version that > could be printed in PDF. > > Robert in San Francisco > Rain...probably more than enough to make up for the dryness from late > November. > > On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 3:16?PM Christine Doud via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > I?m all for online. Easier. Way cheaper. > > Christine Doud > > Santa Maria, CA > > > > > On Dec 20, 2025, at 2:53?PM, Mary Gorton via pbs < > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > > ? I would be very happy with online publication, anything that makes it > > easier for those contributing. I like the exchanges. > > > Mary GortonWilmington, Delaware > > > > > > On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 02:47:36 PM EST, Jane McGary via > > pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > Bulb > > > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > > > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > > > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense > as > > > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > > > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > > > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > > > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > > > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > > > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > > > produce copy. > > > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on > the > > > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > > > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > > > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > > > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > > > acceptable? > > > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > > PBS Forum latest > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:47:12 -0600 > From: Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <31e81236-fda3-43f9-a397-b560cdc2023f@gizmoworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I'm fine with online publication .... IF (and only if) each completed > issue of the publication can be downloaded in PDF format, in addition to > whatever online viewing options may exist. > > Some organizations of which I'm a part have moved to online publishing, > but the publication is only viewable while connected and through a > browser, through some proprietary interface (or worse, a bespoke app, > which I detest for professional reasons). While the intent may be to > provide a better viewing experience to users who are not tech-savvy, the > lack of a downloadable version means it cannot be read offline. Offline > other than by choice is an increasingly rare condition these days for a > lot of us but it happens, and there are still plenty of people who don't > live with pervasive Internet access. > > Steve > > On 12/20/2025 1:47 PM, Jane McGary via pbs wrote: > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > > Bulb Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty > > in obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are > > the causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest > > expense as printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS > > officers and board of directors have discussed the possibility of > > putting the BG entirely online. At present, back issues are archived > > on the PBS website. Preparing copy suitable for online posting would > > be easier than formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule > > to continuous additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more > > authors to produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on > > the board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central > > benefit. The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online > > organization, working through the website and its famous wiki, this > > email list, and now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" > > entirely online be acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum > > latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 17:57:15 -0600 > From: Kelly Irvin <kellso@irvincentral.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <af48de29-f6fe-4110-abee-324e4969846b@irvincentral.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > I'm with Steve. > > -- > Mr. Kelly M. Irvin > 10850 Hodge Ln > Gravette, AR 72736 > USA > > USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b > > On 12/20/25 5:47 PM, Steve Marak via pbs wrote: > > I'm fine with online publication .... IF (and only if) each > > completed issue of the publication can be downloaded in PDF format, > > in addition to whatever online viewing options may exist. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 16:06:32 -0800 > From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>, Bulb Society Pacific > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: > <2B52AF87-B9B3-4683-BBB4-4243E86A8428@waterwisegardener.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Moving the publication online makes 100% sense > > Thank you Jane! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 20, 2025, at 11:47?AM, Jane McGary via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The > Bulb Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board of > directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely online. > At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. Preparing copy > suitable for online posting would be easier than formatting a print > edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous additions, rather than > deadlines, might encourage more authors to produce copy. > > > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a printed > newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main incentive to paid > membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. The PBS has been > structured from its origin as an online organization, working through the > website and its famous wiki, this email list, and now the forum. Would > moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be acceptable? > > > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2025 00:20:22 GMT > From: "Rick Rodich" <rrodich@juno.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Message-ID: <20251220.182022.31900.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > I am sure you've seen how some other groups offer both electronic and > printed copies. Some have different membership dues for those who want > hard copies versus electronic, although it usually doesn't cover the total > extra cost. If you crunch the numbers and clearly post the costs, the > ultimately fewer people are usually happy to pay extra. Myself, I am > perfectly happy with an online only publishing, but if I may relay a story: > I run the plant sales for our Minnesota Chapter Rock Garden Society, and > usually donate about a third of the plants. One year I gave a discount to > those who were also members of the National Society (NARGS). The result > was that non-NARGS members complained that they were being penalized. My > point is that people are just fickle. You will never please everyone, but > if you introduce a change, do it slowly with well-in-advance notice. Rick > Rodich > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > Subject: [pbs] The Bulb Garden > Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:47:32 -0800 > > Members will have noticed that the Society's print newsletter, /The Bulb > Garden /(B/G), /has been in hiatus for the past year. Difficulty in > obtaining contributions, and the editor's other commitments, are the > causes. In addition, the newsletter had become PBS's greatest expense as > printing and postal costs rose continually. The PBS officers and board > of directors have discussed the possibility of putting the BG entirely > online. At present, back issues are archived on the PBS website. > Preparing copy suitable for online posting would be easier than > formatting a print edition, and opening up the schedule to continuous > additions, rather than deadlines, might encourage more authors to > produce copy. > > We'd like to know what other members think about this. One or two on the > board felt that we would lose members if they no longer received a > printed newsletter. Others think that the exchanges are the main > incentive to paid membership, and that the BG is not a central benefit. > The PBS has been structured from its origin as an online organization, > working through the website and its famous wiki, this email list, and > now the forum. Would moving our "occasional papers" entirely online be > acceptable? > > Please let us know by posting replies here. You can also write to the > officers privately through the contact addresses on the website. > > Thank you! > > Jane McGary, Membership Coordinator, Portland, Oregon, USA > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 106, Issue 10 > ************************************ > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…