I placed two orders from two different sources in Thailand and one from Indonesia late last year, and they know all about the 12 and under rule. They all arrived well packaged and correctly labelled. I liked how they took photos of each item they sent plus a photo of the phyto and emailed those to me when they sent the package. The key to this kind of ordering and pretty much every other kind of plant importing (other than seeds) is getting that phyto certificate. If you can get that, you can get anything imported (that is allowed—certain things get disallowed sometimes for really unreasonable reasons IMO; not all, but some). Another thing I’ve learned is that some disallowed species *are* allowed if you can get it in tissue culture form. (Like bananas, for example.) --Lee Poulsen San Gabriel Valley, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 340 ft/100 m > On May 11, 2025, at 21:14, robert robert via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > I placed another order with Komoriya on 4/30 and received the hippeastrum bulbs on 5/10. There were no extra charges or tariffs attached to the order and the shipping charges were normal.Delivery time was 10 days from ordering which is phenomenal since every other time it was a 3-week minimum before I would receive them. Because my days of ordering dozens of bulbs at a timeare way behind me, I've let my permit expire and am now importing under APHIS's 12 and under rule. It's basically the same as having a permit, only there is a cap of 12 or under plants/bulbs. Thereis no permit or import label required but you must follow all the rules and regulations set by APHIS. You can find all the information needed in the "General" section of the APHIS website if interested. I've imported from several sellers on eBay without issue over the last few years. However, I've done my homework with these sellers before ordering to make sure they have shipped to the US before and have an acceptable phyto cert. Most legitimate sellers will be more than happy to answer your questions, but you also have to be aware not all sellers are legit. Cost is sometimes an issue especially with the phyo cert, but that all depends on how bad you want the bulb/plant. Next month I am going to place an order out of Thailand to see how that goes. Hopefully, there will be no tariffsor excessive fees to pay. > > Rob in Pennsylvania where much need rain is on the way. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum https://… _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…