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1. PBS web services are up (David Pilling)
2. Re: PBS web services are up (Mike Rummerfield)
3. Re: PBS web services are up (KENNETH PRETEROTI)
4. Re: PBS web services are up (Randall P. Linke)
5. Re: PBS web services are down (Randall P. Linke)
6. Re: PBS web services are down (Randall P. Linke)
7. Re: PBS web services are up (Bridget Wosczyna)
8. PBS web services are down (David Pilling)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:28:38 +0100
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
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Subject: [pbs] PBS web services are up
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Hi,
So we're back online:
https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/
Using Apache mod_evasive which I seem to have tuned just enough to make
things work.
We might get it better, we might go Cloudflare, or another Apache module
"APACHE ULTIMATE BAD BOT BLOCKER".
I'd be interested in your current experience - is it slow, does it block
your browsing behaviour.
We're still dealing with a lot more activity than is justifiable. A real
example of how you're paying for far more resources than you use.
--
David Pilling
http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 08:36:05 -0700
From: Mike Rummerfield <mikerumm@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are up
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Thank you, thank you, Wizard David - and everyone else that helped out.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 8:29?AM David Pilling via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So we're back online:
>
> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/
>
> Using Apache mod_evasive which I seem to have tuned just enough to make
> things work.
>
> We might get it better, we might go Cloudflare, or another Apache module
> "APACHE ULTIMATE BAD BOT BLOCKER".
>
>
> I'd be interested in your current experience - is it slow, does it block
> your browsing behaviour.
>
> We're still dealing with a lot more activity than is justifiable. A real
> example of how you're paying for far more resources than you use.
>
> --
> David Pilling
> http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 15:45:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: KENNETH PRETEROTI <k.preteroti@verizon.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are up
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Great work!
KenP?
?If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor
~ Desmond Tutu?
On Thursday, October 16, 2025, 11:36 AM, Mike Rummerfield via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Thank you, thank you, Wizard David - and everyone else that helped out.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 8:29?AM David Pilling via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So we're back online:
>
> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/
>
> Using Apache mod_evasive which I seem to have tuned just enough to make
> things work.
>
> We might get it better, we might go Cloudflare, or another Apache module
> "APACHE ULTIMATE BAD BOT BLOCKER".
>
>
> I'd be interested in your current experience - is it slow, does it block
> your browsing behaviour.
>
> We're still dealing with a lot more activity than is justifiable. A real
> example of how you're paying for far more resources than you use.
>
> --
> David Pilling
> http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 17:49:47 +0200
From: "Randall P. Linke" <randysgarden@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are up
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Great work! Site loads quickly for me and moved to different pages and the
forum, all loaded instantly.
Randy Linke,
Armilla, Granada, Spain
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 5:45?PM KENNETH PRETEROTI via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> Great work!
>
>
> KenP
> If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side
> of the oppressor
> ~ Desmond Tutu
>
>
> On Thursday, October 16, 2025, 11:36 AM, Mike Rummerfield via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you, thank you, Wizard David - and everyone else that helped out.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 8:29?AM David Pilling via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > So we're back online:
> >
> > https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/
> >
> > Using Apache mod_evasive which I seem to have tuned just enough to make
> > things work.
> >
> > We might get it better, we might go Cloudflare, or another Apache module
> > "APACHE ULTIMATE BAD BOT BLOCKER".
> >
> >
> > I'd be interested in your current experience - is it slow, does it block
> > your browsing behaviour.
> >
> > We're still dealing with a lot more activity than is justifiable. A real
> > example of how you're paying for far more resources than you use.
> >
> > --
> > David Pilling
> > http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:02:13 +0200
From: "Randall P. Linke" <randysgarden@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are down
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I was just trying to catch up on past posts and after going through several
got a message saying site not available, then it cleared up and I was able
to read posts.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:51?AM Christine Doud via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> Yikes. I?m totally dependent on the Wiki site so I hope it?s back online
> soon. Glad to know it wasn?t my device.
> Christine
>
> > On Oct 14, 2025, at 5:46?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ? Some time back we got a nasty-gram posted on the List that was clearly
> sent by some crank who thought we were the more famous PBS. This could be
> another attack based on mistaken identity. Just a theory and not a
> solution!
> > Bob Zone 7
> > On Tuesday, October 14, 2025 at 06:55:24 PM EDT, David Pilling via
> pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've turned off the PBS web server, this is because it is being
> > overwhelmed by unwanted page requests.
> >
> > Whether it is an organised denial of service attack or just AI bots with
> > an unhealthy interest in bulbs I do not know.
> >
> > There are common suggestions, like Apache mod_evasive but they don't
> > appear to work with the particular form of attack.
> >
> > I expect we will try to think of a solution. Suggestions?
> >
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:04:30 +0200
From: "Randall P. Linke" <randysgarden@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are down
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Just got it again. Here is a screen shot:
[image: image.png]
On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 6:02?PM Randall P. Linke <randysgarden@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I was just trying to catch up on past posts and after going through
> several got a message saying site not available, then it cleared up and I
> was able to read posts.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:51?AM Christine Doud via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
>> Yikes. I?m totally dependent on the Wiki site so I hope it?s back online
>> soon. Glad to know it wasn?t my device.
>> Christine
>>
>> > On Oct 14, 2025, at 5:46?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <
>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > ? Some time back we got a nasty-gram posted on the List that was
>> clearly sent by some crank who thought we were the more famous PBS. This
>> could be another attack based on mistaken identity. Just a theory and not
>> a solution!
>> > Bob Zone 7
>> > On Tuesday, October 14, 2025 at 06:55:24 PM EDT, David Pilling via
>> pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've turned off the PBS web server, this is because it is being
>> > overwhelmed by unwanted page requests.
>> >
>> > Whether it is an organised denial of service attack or just AI bots with
>> > an unhealthy interest in bulbs I do not know.
>> >
>> > There are common suggestions, like Apache mod_evasive but they don't
>> > appear to work with the particular form of attack.
>> >
>> > I expect we will try to think of a solution. Suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > David Pilling
>> > http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > PBS Forum latest:
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:45:01 -0400
From: Bridget Wosczyna <fritchick@gmail.com>
To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Cc: "Randall P. Linke" <randysgarden@gmail.com>, Bulb Society Pacific
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Subject: Re: [pbs] PBS web services are up
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Thank you, so much, David. We are so dependent upon the website and it?s a small trauma when nonoperational.
Especially grateful as the BX manager
B
> On Oct 16, 2025, at 11:50?AM, Randall P. Linke via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> ?Great work! Site loads quickly for me and moved to different pages and the
> forum, all loaded instantly.
>
> Randy Linke,
> Armilla, Granada, Spain
>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 5:45?PM KENNETH PRETEROTI via pbs <
>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>>
>> Great work!
>>
>>
>> KenP
>> If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side
>> of the oppressor
>> ~ Desmond Tutu
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 16, 2025, 11:36 AM, Mike Rummerfield via pbs <
>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, thank you, Wizard David - and everyone else that helped out.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 8:29?AM David Pilling via pbs <
>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> So we're back online:
>>>
>>> https://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/
>>>
>>> Using Apache mod_evasive which I seem to have tuned just enough to make
>>> things work.
>>>
>>> We might get it better, we might go Cloudflare, or another Apache module
>>> "APACHE ULTIMATE BAD BOT BLOCKER".
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in your current experience - is it slow, does it block
>>> your browsing behaviour.
>>>
>>> We're still dealing with a lot more activity than is justifiable. A real
>>> example of how you're paying for far more resources than you use.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Pilling
>>> http://www.davidpilling.com/<http://www.davidpilling.com/>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 01:29:01 +0100
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
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Hi,
Sorry to disappoint, I've had to turn the server off again...
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