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Hi. I have recently acquired a bulb of the Mexican spiderlily species Hymenocallis cleo, also known as Hymenocallis chiapisiana. I can find little about this one, and it is not included in the listed Hymenocallis on the PBS Wiki (under either name). Trying to find out what its growing conditions are in the wild so I can try to grow it in the garden.  I know it grows in the highlands of the southeastern Mexican state of Chiapis. Anyone grow it or know about it?

I did write down that the late Thad Howard, an expert on Mexican Hymenocallis who made expeditions to see them years ago, wrote an article on this one in Plant Life. I have that it was in 1979; #35, pages 56-57. If anyone has that article, I would greatly appreciate if you could post it here, or else send it to me. Thanks.


General Discussion / Do you have Herbertia, Volume 58?
October 29, 2022, 12:11:41 PM
Hi, I am looking for somebody who has Volume 58 of Herbertia, published in the mid-2000s. At pages 141-144 is an article written by the late Thad Howard, an expert on Mexican Hymenocallis species. It is concerning Hymenocallis lehmillerii, and I am looking for a good description of this species. As some of you may be aware, there is no single reference to the Hymenocallis found south of the border, even though there are actually a greater number of Mexican species than American ones. This is also a follow up on my what I posted with pictures in "Mystery Bulbs" recently trying to confirm an uncertain ID of what I obtained as this species a couple of years ago.

If you have it, I would greatly appreciate somebody shooting me those 4 pages of the article. Thanks very much!

Mystery Bulbs / Mexican Hymenocallis ID
September 27, 2022, 12:14:19 PM
Hi: Trying to get an ID on what I believe is a Mexican (rather than USA) species of Hymenocallis that I acquired as Hymenocallis lehmillerii, but other Mexican Hymenocallis I got at the same time were misidentified, so I want to confirm the ID on this one. It surprised me by blooming out in the garden earlier this month with three blooms on consecutive days (9-9. 9-10 and 9-11). Each bloom faded pretty quickly after its first day, as you can see in the attached pictures.  

I am pretty sure it is a Mexican one, as I either grow or have seen blooming most all of the American ones, and this one is different. Also, flowers have greenish filaments, which is consistent with lehmillerii but I think also with some other Mexican ones, and you can see an unopened flower in at least one picture with green in the flower tube. Leaves are a bit darker green than some, glossy, and are 1 inch wide at widest point in the center, NOT petiolate.  The flower stem (now with seed pods at the tip) is the tallest part of the plant at 20 inches above the ground. I have harvested a few seeds already, which are quite small. 

As you can see by the photo with the tape measure, the staminal cups are small on this one and flower is about 4 inches from tepal tip to tepal tip. The first picture that shows a flower without a clearly discernable cup was taken the morning after a very heavy rain, which I am sure damaged the cup- other 2 blooms have cups. 

This Hymenocallis is planted in my zone 7b garden (north suburban Atlanta) year-round and is in some part shade, making me think it might be a woodland plant in its native habitat, as I know some Mexican species are. Not sure a sun-loving one would have bloomed and made seeds where it is. 

I know there are at least a few folks in PBS that know Hymenocallis from south of the border, so hoping you can help me ID this plant. There is not a good reference publication or key that I am aware of for the Mexican ones. Late bloom time should narrow it down a bit I would think. Thanks.

Charles in Smyrna, Georgia 
General Discussion / Arisaema iyoanum var. nakaianum
August 14, 2022, 08:12:18 AM
Hi. I have grown a single plant of Japanese species Arisaema iyoanum var. nakaianum for many years. Those of you that grow Arisaema know that it takes two to tango. In other words, it requires a female plant to be fertilized by a male plant to make a viable seed pod. But Arisaemas can change their sex from year to year. 

So I am looking to buy (or swap) for another plant or two (or seeds) of this species and variety, which does extremely well out in the garden year-round in my suburban metro Atlanta USDA zone 7b garden. If you have any of this one, please let me know. Thanks. 

General Discussion / Mexican Hymenocallis
July 22, 2022, 11:35:45 AM
Hi. New member here. I am in the southeastern USA (Atlanta area) where I can grow most all the Hymenocallis species, many of which are native to the southern USA, with most of the others from Mexico, where there are a lot of species. I have most all the American ones but I am trying to expand my collection of Mexican ones, few of which are in the trade. Anybody here grow any of the more unusual Mexican ones? Would love to connect to see if we could swap some stuff.