Jim: I envy your ability to acquire these. Besides my not being able to find any sources, many don't even know what I'm talking about, usually thinking I'm mispelling "Urginea". I've still got that image you sent, I think it was last year. Your observation about the basal plate is quite interesting. Can you tell if the tissue is living? Are you suggesting bulblets or some kind of runners may form off of them for asexual propagation? It's a very curious observation. James Waddick wrote: > Dear all; > I know a number of you are very interested in the genus Ungernia > supposedly the closest relative to Lycoris. -- Mr. Kelly M. Irvin The Bulbmeister 4407 Town Vu Road Bentonville, AR 72712 479-685-1339 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6b E-mail: mailto:bulbmeister@bulbmeister.com Website: http://www.bulbmeister.com/ Forum: http://www.bulbmeister.com/forum/