Dear All, We get email to our list all the time from people who are not members and are responding to our archives. Arnold and I attempt to answer these as we can, usually encouraging people to join the list and ask their question directly, but occasionally forwarding the message on if we can figure out who they were trying to contact. And of course we just get rid of the spam without responding. This fall a woman wrote with a Crocus identification question. I encouraged her to join our group knowing we had some really knowledgeable people who could help her and gave her the url for Tony Goode's site, but I never heard back. She was especially unhappy because she said most web sites including our wiki did not mention if the leaves came up before, after, or with the leaves and when the plants bloomed. She thought that would help her in figuring out what she had. Having spent some time looking at Tony's site I know it's a bit more complicated than that, but I thought she had a valid point. I looked at the wiki and indeed she was right. There was not a lot of text information about the plants, although a few species were well described. I have attempted to add what I could consulting Tony's site and Mathew's The Smaller Bulbs since it has quite a lot of detailed information about Crocus. Some of you who know more than I do may want to check it for accuracy and change it as needed. After I did that the wiki page was really long so I pulled out the ones that bloom in the fall. I recently added two more pictures of Crocus niveus which is a gorgeous thing with HUGE (for a Crocus it seems) white flowers. I've really been enjoying it thanks to the NARGS seed exchange. I moved it out of the rain the last couple of days and am hoping for some sunshine tomorrow. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Mary Sue