Jane wrote: > Triteleia laxa was one of my favorite wildflowers when I was a child in California and loved to find it among the dry grasses. Ahh, that takes me straight back my childhood in LA, although the main species you saw in my area was Dichelostemma capitatum, a little knot of purple flowers sticking up just above the dried-out wild oats. The nice think about some of the Brodiaea/Triteleia/etc is that they don't limit themselves to serpentine soil. You tend to see them anywhere that other wildflowers grow (and some places where they don't). Nan wrote: >They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow in general and my experience is the same. If you get species that are well adapted to your local climate, they should do very well in pots. I am in San Jose now, but the climate is similar to LA, and they respond well here to the same treatment as Calochortus. https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… The difference with these guys is that when they're happy some will offset heavily from stolons and you'll need to repot them every few years so they don't get too crowded. Mike San Jose, CA -----Original Message----- From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> On Behalf Of pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 5:00 AM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 40, Issue 5 Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Today's Topics: 1. Eucrosia (Jane Sargent) 2. Checking California bulb species (Jane McGary) 3. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen) 4. Re: Eucrosia (Arnold Trachtenberg) 5. Re: Checking California bulb species (Nan Sterman) 6. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen) 7. Re: Checking California bulb species (Diana Chapman) 8. Re: Checking California bulb species (Mary Sue Ittner) 9. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen) 10. Calochortus hybrid (Mary Sue Ittner) 11. Re: Calochortus hybrid (Jane McGary) 12. Re: Checking California bulb species (Jane McGary) 13. Re: Calochortus hybrid (Kipp McMichael) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:01:06 -0400 From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] Eucrosia Message-ID: <9F730997-5768-4085-9283-A17F7BFF48E8@deskhenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Eucrosia looks like Chthulhu. Wonderful! Jane S Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:15:23 -0700 From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <569f54e7-032b-76b3-2969-10a629997820@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Two notes on Californian bulbs now in flower: 1. Seed received from the PBS BX in 2015 as Calochortus appendiculatus has flowered here and all individuals are C. luteus. 2. Plants grown from NARGS seedex seed as "Brodiaea synandra Salmon" (presumably referring to Mike Salmon's old Monocot seed list) are definitely not that entity. "B. synandra" is now called B. insignis. My plants are a Brodiaea with quite prominent violet staminodes fitting the description (inrolled, hooded) in the Jepson Manual for B. jolonensis (most Brodiaea species with prominent staminodes, including B. insignis, have white or pale ones). The perianth is funnel-shaped ("ascending") rather than the widely opening perianth described for B. insignis. However, the staminodes are almost twice as long as the style, while Jepson has them about the same length in B. insignis and B. jolonensis. B. terrestris can have violet staminodes, but they also don't exceed the style according to Jepson; also, I'm pretty familiar with B. terrestris and this doesn't look like it.? Anyway, "synandra" is an obsolete name if you have it on something. I wonder if it refers to the relative positions of the stamens and staminodes, which are "held close" in both insignis and jolonensis. (If you're new to Brodiaea, the staminodes are three infertile structures that alternate with the three fertile stamens. Not all Brodiaea species have them, but most do.) Admittedly, brodiaeas, which are or recently were grouped with Dichelostemma, Triteleia, Bloomeria, and a couple of other genera in the Themidaceae, are not "choice" plants to most PBS members, probably because they're too easy to grow. Triteleia laxa was one of my favorite wildflowers when I was a child in California and loved to find it among the dry grasses. Almost all of them (like many Calochortus species) flower much later than other dry-summer bulb species, so they are useful in the June garden if their winter-growing leaves can be accommodated there and hidden, as they wither, by surrounding plants in early-summer growth, which also support the themids' tall stems. Most of them seem to tolerate some summer water while dormant. They don't take many years from sowing to flowering, either. In nature they often grow in scrub, where their stems elongate to raise the flowers into the open; one, Dichelostemma volubile, is actually a twiner and can get more than a meter up into a shrub. Because of the long, bare stems, all look best when closely planted in the garden. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:29:46 -0700 From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <003001d63c30$759a94d0$60cfbe70$@hansennursery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Jane has highlighted an often ignored group of bulbs that are reliable and forgiving. Also among my favorites for consistent blooming. They do tolerate summer water nicely, or at least they tolerate my particular method of watering and June and July can be pretty boring until they flower, while I'm waiting on the native lilies. Yes, the leaves are a serious annoyance, but then consider narcissus and tulip leaves... They're best planted in groups for good effect and show up well, being mostly in the blue/purple/white/pink range with most flowers being at least an inch in length. I was amazed to have Triteleia ixoides blooming so far for about six weeks. They are happy at last in their new home and very showy! This trit is one of the few that's golden yellow. For bulbs you can pretty much plant and forget, at least in the west, these are a great choice, and too often overlooked. As for keying them out, they drive me nuts, but I have learned about staminodes... Robin Hansen ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:53:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Eucrosia Message-ID: <1199531173.309391.1591469637645@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Jane: Had to google that one. Interesting for sure. Arnold Chthulhu -----Original Message----- From: Jane Sargent via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Cc: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 6, 2020 10:01 am Subject: [pbs] Eucrosia The Eucrosia looks like Chthulhu. Wonderful! Jane S Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 15:06:55 -0700 From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <C3BFBA95-9B1E-4D3A-893B-47F6CDB5B2D7@waterwisegardener.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 This is an interesting and baffling email in a few respects. I live in Southern California and the California native bulbs listed are very hard to find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow in general and my experience is the same. To say they are ?too easy to grow? is a big surprise to me. Perhaps they are easy in Oregon but not in Southern California though many are native here. If someone knows of sources for bulbs (rather than seeds), I?d love to get that information. Nan Sterman > On Jun 6, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Two notes on Californian bulbs now in flower: > > 1. Seed received from the PBS BX in 2015 as Calochortus appendiculatus has flowered here and all individuals are C. luteus. > > 2. Plants grown from NARGS seedex seed as "Brodiaea synandra Salmon" > (presumably referring to Mike Salmon's old Monocot seed list) are > definitely not that entity. "B. synandra" is now called B. insignis. > My plants are a Brodiaea with quite prominent violet staminodes > fitting the description (inrolled, hooded) in the Jepson Manual for B. > jolonensis (most Brodiaea species with prominent staminodes, including > B. insignis, have white or pale ones). The perianth is funnel-shaped > ("ascending") rather than the widely opening perianth described for B. > insignis. However, the staminodes are almost twice as long as the > style, while Jepson has them about the same length in B. insignis and > B. jolonensis. B. terrestris can have violet staminodes, but they also > don't exceed the style according to Jepson; also, I'm pretty familiar > with B. terrestris and this doesn't look like it. Anyway, "synandra" > is an obsolete name if you have it on something. I wonder if it refers > to the relative positions of the stamens and staminodes, which are "held close" in both insignis and jolonensis. (If you're new to Brodiaea, the staminodes are three infertile structures that alternate with the three fertile stamens. Not all Brodiaea species have them, but most do.) > > Admittedly, brodiaeas, which are or recently were grouped with > Dichelostemma, Triteleia, Bloomeria, and a couple of other genera in > the Themidaceae, are not "choice" plants to most PBS members, probably > because they're too easy to grow. Triteleia laxa was one of my > favorite wildflowers when I was a child in California and loved to > find it among the dry grasses. Almost all of them (like many > Calochortus species) flower much later than other dry-summer bulb > species, so they are useful in the June garden if their winter-growing > leaves can be accommodated there and hidden, as they wither, by > surrounding plants in early-summer growth, which also support the > themids' tall stems. Most of them seem to tolerate some summer water > while dormant. They don't take many years from sowing to flowering, > either. In nature they often grow in scrub, where their stems elongate > to raise the flowers into the open; one, Dichelostemma volubile, is > actually a twiner and can get more than a meter up into a s hrub. Because of the long, bare stems, all look best when closely planted in the garden. > > Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 15:49:34 -0700 From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <004701d63c54$c171abe0$445503a0$@hansennursery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Nan, """" I live in Southern California and the California native bulbs listed are very hard to find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow in general and my experience is the same. To say they are ?too easy to grow? is a big surprise to me.????? I grow a few of them and list them in the catalog, but I never thought about these native bulbs as being especially rare...nor as being especially difficult to grow. I must be asleep at the switch! The trits and others do show up from time to time in our seed and bulb exchanges, more likely seed than bulb if I recall correctly. Contact me privately for further availability. I'm not in a position to donate any quantities to the exchange now. Other than Telos Rare Bulbs, does anyone know of any reliable sources for these bulbs? Robin Hansen Robin@hansennursery.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:05:08 -0700 From: Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> To: Nan Sterman via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <e29671b6-86e4-6a14-e8d4-24487aeed9cb@suddenlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I grow a wide variety.? http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ Diana ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 17:16:21 -0700 From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <8303b91f-6659-2d6f-074b-b2b900b1ce71@mcn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" I recently worked on the wiki Brodiaea page so spent a lot of time looking at the Jepson eflora key. There have been a lot of new species named in the past number of years, mostly on small morphological differences and I think this makes identification really challenging for some of them, especially since some of these species occur in many parts of the state and there is considerable variation in nature and that makes writing a key practically impossible. If you have grown bulbs from seed and there used to be sources of wild collected seed, a lot probably depended on where the seed came from. If plants that were once grown from seed that was considered to be? B. californica, but now that has morphed into a new species, most people will continue to call it what they knew it to be. I've tried to add photos with shared licenses to the wiki to help figure the species out. I decided to write more? about B. purdyi, B. minor, B. nana on the wiki since it took me some time to thoroughly understand that change. I grew two versions of B. purdyi from Robinett and purchased B. minor from Telos. Robert Preston? in 2006 published a paper entitled "A Reconsideration of Brodiaea minor (Benth.) S. Watson and Brodiaea purdyi Eastwood (Themidaceae), with the resurrection of Brodiaea nana Hoover". In it he concluded: ""The results of this paper demonstrate that Niehaus?s (1971) concept of B. purdyi, the polyploid small-flowered species, with spreading perianth lobes and floral tubes that are narrowed above the ovary, and that occurs in woodland habitats in the northern Sierra Nevada foothills, applies to the taxon originally described as B. minor and as recognized by Jepson (1922) and Hoover (1939), placing B. purdyi in synonymy with B. minor." So to correct this B. purdyi became B. minor. But he felt the plants then known as B. minor were distinct so he resurrected the name B. nana for them. The two species are very similar: Staminode tips erect to spreading , margins 3/4 inrolled; stamens narrow-notched at apex between anther sacs; filaments T-shaped in ?-section = B. minor (was B. purdyi) Staminode tips erect, margins flat to 1/2 inrolled; stamens wide-notched between anther sacs; filaments V- or Y-shaped in ?-section = B. nana (was B. minor) These are not large flowers and I find the distinction between 1/2 to 3/4 in the margins challenging and definition of wide to narrow notched a bit subjective. I changed the names on the wiki according to how they had been identified in the past, hoping that was correct. https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… The Flora of North America seems to be slow to accept all these changes, but Jepson and Kew have. Now that I finally changed them on the wiki after putting it off for years, DNA work will probably change the names again. It's been a very dry year for where I live which has been a very positive thing for my bulb collection. We've had a little late rain as well so flowers that didn't have enough light to flower before or were wiped out by the rain or dried up too soon have been putting on quite a show. I have seen two southern California Brodiaea species flower that I haven't seen for years so obviously they liked it better. And just opening is what I've labeled B. jolonensis and I'd say the violet staminodes are twice as long as the style on my plants. B. terrestris ssp. kernensis also has violet staminodes that are hooded (and taller than the style), but the staminodes are notched. As for whether Brodiaea, Dichelostemma, and Triteleia are easy to grow probably depends on the species, the provenance? and your climate. Many of the species grow in large portions of California and sometimes Oregon so the conditions they are used to vary greatly. On the other hand I find it fascinating that I have had such good luck with B. terrestris ssp. kernensis which is a Southern California species and terrible luck with the one that grows a five minute walk from my house (in the baseball/soccer field and is flowering wonderfully this year since they haven't mowed). I've saved seed and planted in my grassy areas, unwatered in summer, but rarely see any of it. So maybe using this logic Nan needs to try Northern California species. On another interesting note and going along with the comments from Jane and Robin about how some of these tolerate water when dormant, I noticed some Brodiaea elegans growing in a Meyer lemon tub a number of years ago. Almost every year a few of them flower, but last fall we repotted the lemon as the tub it was in was coming apart and added some new soil. Apparently either the new soil and/or the dry spring has been to its liking as we have about 110 flower stalks (my husband counted for me) at the moment. I'm sure the roots of the lemon plant add some air and our summers are a bit cooler than a lot of California, but the pot gets watered a lot during our dry summers. I've attached a photo of it and the Brodiaea jolonensis that I photographed yesterday. Sorry this is so long. Mary Sue -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Brodiaea_elegans_in_lemon.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 279751 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 9f11/attachment.jpg> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: B-Brodiaea_jolonensis.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 103158 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 9f11/attachment-0001.jpg> ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:41:45 -0700 From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <004801d63c6c$ce39fe50$6aadfaf0$@hansennursery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Wow, Mary Sue! That's some photo of Brodiaea elegans! And always take time (when you have it) to go through detailed explanations as you have done here. As you mention, keying these various bulbs out is very difficult, so additional information is very welcome. I'll go through three or four floras trying to identify a native bulb and become so frustrated because the description in one flora focuses on certain parts of a flower and another flora focuses on other parts, so it's crazy to try and get enough information at times to actually identify a bulb! That doesn't even take into account the DNA changes, the slowness that some floras have in adapting information other floras have adopted, regional differences and new species that continue to be discovered...oh, and doesn't even mention the basic disagreements between splitters and lumpers. So, the more you add to the wiki, the better we're all able to understand these genera and species. Please, please keep doing this! Many thanks, Robin Hansen ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 20:12:24 -0700 From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid Message-ID: <b3b7f21c-a668-4928-ab92-ce13a39c2ba5@mcn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has not been true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly dwindling, but the ones that are left usually do better in a wet year. The only ones to flower so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, Calochortus catalinae, and Calochortus vestae. That is until today when the attached showed up. I remembered once before having a Calochortus that didn't look like any others I grow so looked through my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not since. I'll attach it too for comparison. Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra, Mike Mace? Others? It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering close to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is what Jim Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated. Mary Sue -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: B-Calochortus_hybrid.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 134455 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 2cbc/attachment.jpg> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Calochorutus_hybrid-2011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 123097 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 2cbc/attachment-0001.jpg> ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 21:54:03 -0700 From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid Message-ID: <8c7b5242-faa2-43d4-8a44-50cb52d77dac@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I'd guess that one of the parents is Calochortus splendens, but the orange central zone is very unusual. C. splendens seeds freely in my bulb house. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 6/6/2020 8:12 PM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote: > Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has > not been true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly > dwindling, but the ones that are left usually do better in a wet year. > The only ones to flower so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, > Calochortus catalinae, and Calochortus vestae. That is until today > when the attached showed up. I remembered once before having a > Calochortus that didn't look like any others I grow so looked through > my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not since. I'll attach it > too for comparison. Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its > parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra, Mike Mace? Others? > > It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering > close to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is > what Jim Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated. > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 22:10:23 -0700 From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> To: Nan Sterman <info@waterwisegardener.com>, Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species Message-ID: <30c9be31-7125-3fec-7930-9eb6d6b755f0@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Nan's remarks are in turn baffling to me. How have you planted them? Is your soil unusual in some way? What kinds of plants do well there? Do you have a lot of rodents in your garden, such as ground squirrels, which eat the bulbs? (Bears also love to eat them, but perhaps they are not common in your garden.) Diana Chapman's Telos Rare Bulbs list has many native bulbs, as does Robin's Hansen Nursery. In addition, mass-market Dutch bulb catalogs offer a number of western American bulbs, almost all of them under the wrong names, but they have pictures. I'll probably send some bulbs to the BX this summer, and last year Jim Barton of Modesto, CA, donated quite a few. I can't think why themids would "have a reputation for being very difficult to grow." Possibly literature from conservation groups suggests this to keep people from digging them in the wild? I grew all of mine from seed originally and they set masses of seed, which is a little hard to clean but I always donate some to exchanges. Mary Sue mentioned the long flowering period of Triteleia ixioides. It seems to open flushes of flowers one after another, which makes the flower head less suitable for cutting than some others. All the themids are great for flower arrangements, very long-lasting. Indeed, a flowering stem detached from the bulb will lie on the ground and complete its flowering and seed maturation just from the moisture in the long stem. If Japanese or modernistic floral design is an interest of yours, you'll find plenty of inspiration in species such as Dichelostemma ida-maia and Triteleia peduncularis. Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA On 6/6/2020 3:05 PM, Nan Sterman wrote: > This is an interesting and baffling email in a few respects. I live in Southern California and the California native bulbs listed are very hard to find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow in general and my experience is the same. To say they are ?too easy to grow? is a big surprise to me. Perhaps they are easy in Oregon but not in Southern California though many are native here. If someone knows of sources for bulbs (rather than seeds), I?d love to get that information. > > Nan Sterman > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 05:40:19 +0000 From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com> To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid Message-ID: <BYAPR07MB47916EB49E5D5F4484921EA6CC840@BYAPR07MB4791.namprd07.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hmmm - this looks alot like C. palmeri. Here's an image from the web: https://calflora.org/cgi-bin/viewphoto.cgi/… .jpg This tends to grow in seasonally moist mountain meadows so it might need a particular pattern of winter & spring moisture. I've seen this in habitat(s) have not yet grown this one myself. -|<ipp ________________________________ From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> on behalf of Mary Sue Ittner via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:12 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Cc: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> Subject: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has not been true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly dwindling, but the ones that are left usually do better in a wet year. The only ones to flower so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, Calochortus catalinae, and Calochortus vestae. That is until today when the attached showed up. I remembered once before having a Calochortus that didn't look like any others I grow so looked through my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not since. I'll attach it too for comparison. Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra, Mike Mace? Others? It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering close to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is what Jim Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated. Mary Sue -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: B-Calochortus_hybrid.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 134455 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… 2cbc/attachment.jpg> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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