Checking California bulb species

Michael Mace via pbs pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:14:29 PDT
Jane wrote:

> Triteleia laxa was one of my favorite wildflowers when I was a child in
California and loved to find it among the dry grasses.

Ahh, that takes me straight back my childhood in LA, although the main
species you saw in my area was Dichelostemma capitatum, a little knot of
purple flowers sticking up just above the dried-out wild oats.

The nice think about some of the Brodiaea/Triteleia/etc is that they don't
limit themselves to serpentine soil. You tend to see them anywhere that
other wildflowers grow (and some places where they don't).

Nan wrote:

>They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow in general and
my experience is the same.  

If you get species that are well adapted to your local climate, they should
do very well in pots. I am in San Jose now, but the climate is similar to
LA, and they respond well here to the same treatment as Calochortus. 

https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… 

The difference with these guys is that when they're happy some will offset
heavily from stolons and you'll need to repot them every few years so they
don't get too crowded.

Mike
San Jose, CA




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Today's Topics:

   1. Eucrosia (Jane Sargent)
   2. Checking California bulb species (Jane McGary)
   3. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen)
   4. Re: Eucrosia (Arnold Trachtenberg)
   5. Re: Checking California bulb species (Nan Sterman)
   6. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen)
   7. Re: Checking California bulb species (Diana Chapman)
   8. Re: Checking California bulb species (Mary Sue Ittner)
   9. Re: Checking California bulb species (Robin Hansen)
  10. Calochortus hybrid (Mary Sue Ittner)
  11. Re: Calochortus hybrid (Jane McGary)
  12. Re: Checking California bulb species (Jane McGary)
  13. Re: Calochortus hybrid (Kipp McMichael)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 10:01:06 -0400
From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: [pbs] Eucrosia
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The Eucrosia looks like Chthulhu. Wonderful!
Jane S
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:15:23 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
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Two notes on Californian bulbs now in flower:

1. Seed received from the PBS BX in 2015 as Calochortus appendiculatus has
flowered here and all individuals are C. luteus.

2. Plants grown from NARGS seedex seed as "Brodiaea synandra Salmon" 
(presumably referring to Mike Salmon's old Monocot seed list) are definitely
not that entity. "B. synandra" is now called B. insignis. My plants are a
Brodiaea with quite prominent violet staminodes fitting the description
(inrolled, hooded) in the Jepson Manual for B. jolonensis (most Brodiaea
species with prominent staminodes, including B. insignis, have white or pale
ones). The perianth is funnel-shaped ("ascending") rather than the widely
opening perianth described for B. insignis. 
However, the staminodes are almost twice as long as the style, while Jepson
has them about the same length in B. insignis and B. jolonensis. 
B. terrestris can have violet staminodes, but they also don't exceed the
style according to Jepson; also, I'm pretty familiar with B. terrestris and
this doesn't look like it.? Anyway, "synandra" is an obsolete name if you
have it on something. I wonder if it refers to the relative positions of the
stamens and staminodes, which are "held close" in both insignis and
jolonensis. (If you're new to Brodiaea, the staminodes are three infertile
structures that alternate with the three fertile stamens. Not all Brodiaea
species have them, but most do.)

Admittedly, brodiaeas, which are or recently were grouped with
Dichelostemma, Triteleia, Bloomeria, and a couple of other genera in the
Themidaceae, are not "choice" plants to most PBS members, probably because
they're too easy to grow. Triteleia laxa was one of my favorite wildflowers
when I was a child in California and loved to find it among the dry grasses.
Almost all of them (like many Calochortus species) flower much later than
other dry-summer bulb species, so they are useful in the June garden if
their winter-growing leaves can be accommodated there and hidden, as they
wither, by surrounding plants in early-summer growth, which also support the
themids' tall stems. Most of them seem to tolerate some summer water while
dormant. They don't take many years from sowing to flowering, either. In
nature they often grow in scrub, where their stems elongate to raise the
flowers into the open; one, Dichelostemma volubile, is actually a twiner and
can get more than a meter up into a shrub. Because of the long, bare stems,
all look best when closely planted in the garden.

Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:29:46 -0700
From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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Jane has highlighted an often ignored group of bulbs that are reliable and
forgiving. Also among my favorites for consistent blooming. They do tolerate
summer water nicely, or at least they tolerate my particular method of
watering and June and July can be pretty boring until they flower, while I'm
waiting on the native lilies. Yes, the leaves are a serious annoyance, but
then consider narcissus and tulip leaves...

They're best planted in groups for good effect and show up well, being
mostly in the blue/purple/white/pink range with most flowers being at least
an inch in length.  I was amazed to have Triteleia ixoides blooming so far
for about six weeks. They are happy at last in their new home and very
showy! This trit is one of the few that's golden yellow. For bulbs you can
pretty much plant and forget, at least in the west, these are a great
choice, and too often overlooked. As for keying them out, they drive me
nuts, but I have learned about staminodes...

Robin Hansen




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:53:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net>
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Jane:
Had to google that one. Interesting for sure.
Arnold
 

Chthulhu
 
 
 
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The Eucrosia looks like Chthulhu. Wonderful!
Jane S
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 15:06:55 -0700
From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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This is an interesting and baffling email in a few respects.  I live in
Southern California and the California native bulbs listed are very hard to
find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow
in general and my experience is the same.  To say they are ?too easy to
grow? is a big surprise to me.  Perhaps they are easy in Oregon but not in
Southern California though many are native here. If someone knows of sources
for bulbs (rather than seeds), I?d love to get that information.

Nan Sterman

> On Jun 6, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Jane McGary via pbs
<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> 
> Two notes on Californian bulbs now in flower:
> 
> 1. Seed received from the PBS BX in 2015 as Calochortus appendiculatus has
flowered here and all individuals are C. luteus.
> 
> 2. Plants grown from NARGS seedex seed as "Brodiaea synandra Salmon" 
> (presumably referring to Mike Salmon's old Monocot seed list) are 
> definitely not that entity. "B. synandra" is now called B. insignis. 
> My plants are a Brodiaea with quite prominent violet staminodes 
> fitting the description (inrolled, hooded) in the Jepson Manual for B. 
> jolonensis (most Brodiaea species with prominent staminodes, including 
> B. insignis, have white or pale ones). The perianth is funnel-shaped 
> ("ascending") rather than the widely opening perianth described for B. 
> insignis. However, the staminodes are almost twice as long as the 
> style, while Jepson has them about the same length in B. insignis and 
> B. jolonensis. B. terrestris can have violet staminodes, but they also 
> don't exceed the style according to Jepson; also, I'm pretty familiar 
> with B. terrestris and this doesn't look like it.  Anyway, "synandra" 
> is an obsolete name if you have it on something. I wonder if it refers 
> to the relative positions of
  the stamens and staminodes, which are "held close" in both insignis and
jolonensis. (If you're new to Brodiaea, the staminodes are three infertile
structures that alternate with the three fertile stamens. Not all Brodiaea
species have them, but most do.)
> 
> Admittedly, brodiaeas, which are or recently were grouped with 
> Dichelostemma, Triteleia, Bloomeria, and a couple of other genera in 
> the Themidaceae, are not "choice" plants to most PBS members, probably 
> because they're too easy to grow. Triteleia laxa was one of my 
> favorite wildflowers when I was a child in California and loved to 
> find it among the dry grasses. Almost all of them (like many 
> Calochortus species) flower much later than other dry-summer bulb 
> species, so they are useful in the June garden if their winter-growing 
> leaves can be accommodated there and hidden, as they wither, by 
> surrounding plants in early-summer growth, which also support the 
> themids' tall stems. Most of them seem to tolerate some summer water 
> while dormant. They don't take many years from sowing to flowering, 
> either. In nature they often grow in scrub, where their stems elongate 
> to raise the flowers into the open; one, Dichelostemma volubile, is 
> actually a twiner and can get more than a meter up into a s
 hrub. Because of the long, bare stems, all look best when closely planted
in the garden.
> 
> Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 15:49:34 -0700
From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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Nan,

"""" I live in Southern California and the California native bulbs listed
are very hard to find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very
difficult to grow in general and my experience is the same.  To say they are
?too easy to grow? is a big surprise to me.?????

I grow a few of them and list them in the catalog, but I never thought about
these native bulbs as being especially rare...nor as being especially
difficult to grow. I must be asleep at the switch! The trits and others do
show up from time to time in our seed and bulb exchanges, more likely seed
than bulb if I recall correctly. Contact me privately for further
availability. I'm not in a position to donate any quantities to the exchange
now. Other than Telos Rare Bulbs, does anyone know of any reliable sources
for these bulbs?

Robin Hansen
Robin@hansennursery.com



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 16:05:08 -0700
From: Diana Chapman <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net>
To: Nan Sterman via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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I grow a wide variety.? http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/

Diana


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 17:16:21 -0700
From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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I recently worked on the wiki Brodiaea page so spent a lot of time looking
at the Jepson eflora key. There have been a lot of new species named in the
past number of years, mostly on small morphological differences and I think
this makes identification really challenging for some of them, especially
since some of these species occur in many parts of the state and there is
considerable variation in nature and that makes writing a key practically
impossible. If you have grown bulbs from seed and there used to be sources
of wild collected seed, a lot probably depended on where the seed came from.
If plants that were once grown from seed that was considered to be? B.
californica, but now that has morphed into a new species, most people will
continue to call it what they knew it to be. I've tried to add photos with
shared licenses to the wiki to help figure the species out.

I decided to write more? about B. purdyi, B. minor, B. nana on the wiki
since it took me some time to thoroughly understand that change. I grew two
versions of B. purdyi from Robinett and purchased B. minor from Telos.
Robert Preston? in 2006 published a paper entitled "A Reconsideration of
Brodiaea minor (Benth.) S. Watson and Brodiaea purdyi Eastwood
(Themidaceae), with the resurrection of Brodiaea nana Hoover". 
In it he concluded: ""The results of this paper demonstrate that Niehaus?s
(1971) concept of B. purdyi, the polyploid small-flowered species, with
spreading perianth lobes and floral tubes that are narrowed above the ovary,
and that occurs in woodland habitats in the northern Sierra Nevada
foothills, applies to the taxon originally described as B. minor and as
recognized by Jepson (1922) and Hoover (1939), placing B. purdyi in synonymy
with B. minor." So to correct this B. purdyi became B. minor. But he felt
the plants then known as B. minor were distinct so he resurrected the name
B. nana for them. The two species are very similar:

Staminode tips erect to spreading , margins 3/4 inrolled; stamens
narrow-notched at apex between anther sacs; filaments T-shaped in ?-section
= B. minor (was B. purdyi)

Staminode tips erect, margins flat to 1/2 inrolled; stamens wide-notched
between anther sacs; filaments V- or Y-shaped in ?-section = B. nana (was B.
minor)

These are not large flowers and I find the distinction between 1/2 to
3/4 in the margins challenging and definition of wide to narrow notched a
bit subjective. I changed the names on the wiki according to how they had
been identified in the past, hoping that was correct.

https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…

The Flora of North America seems to be slow to accept all these changes, but
Jepson and Kew have. Now that I finally changed them on the wiki after
putting it off for years, DNA work will probably change the names again.

It's been a very dry year for where I live which has been a very positive
thing for my bulb collection. We've had a little late rain as well so
flowers that didn't have enough light to flower before or were wiped out by
the rain or dried up too soon have been putting on quite a show. I have seen
two southern California Brodiaea species flower that I haven't seen for
years so obviously they liked it better. And just opening is what I've
labeled B. jolonensis and I'd say the violet staminodes are twice as long as
the style on my plants. B. terrestris ssp. kernensis also has violet
staminodes that are hooded (and taller than the style), but the staminodes
are notched.

As for whether Brodiaea, Dichelostemma, and Triteleia are easy to grow
probably depends on the species, the provenance? and your climate. Many of
the species grow in large portions of California and sometimes Oregon so the
conditions they are used to vary greatly. On the other hand I find it
fascinating that I have had such good luck with B. terrestris ssp. kernensis
which is a Southern California species and terrible luck with the one that
grows a five minute walk from my house (in the baseball/soccer field and is
flowering wonderfully this year since they haven't mowed). I've saved seed
and planted in my grassy areas, unwatered in summer, but rarely see any of
it. So maybe using this logic Nan needs to try Northern California species.

On another interesting note and going along with the comments from Jane and
Robin about how some of these tolerate water when dormant, I noticed some
Brodiaea elegans growing in a Meyer lemon tub a number of years ago. Almost
every year a few of them flower, but last fall we repotted the lemon as the
tub it was in was coming apart and added some new soil. 
Apparently either the new soil and/or the dry spring has been to its liking
as we have about 110 flower stalks (my husband counted for me) at the
moment. I'm sure the roots of the lemon plant add some air and our summers
are a bit cooler than a lot of California, but the pot gets watered a lot
during our dry summers. I've attached a photo of it and the Brodiaea
jolonensis that I photographed yesterday.

Sorry this is so long.

Mary Sue


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 18:41:45 -0700
From: "Robin Hansen" <robin@hansennursery.com>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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Wow, Mary Sue! That's some photo of Brodiaea elegans! And always take time
(when you have it) to go through detailed explanations as you have done
here. As you mention, keying these various bulbs out is very difficult, so
additional information is very welcome. I'll go through three or four floras
trying to identify a native bulb and become so frustrated because the
description in one flora focuses on certain parts of a flower and another
flora focuses on other parts, so it's crazy to try and get enough
information at times to actually identify a bulb!

That doesn't even take into account the DNA changes, the slowness that some
floras have in adapting information other floras have adopted, regional
differences and new species that continue to be discovered...oh, and doesn't
even mention the basic disagreements between splitters and lumpers. So, the
more you add to the wiki, the better we're all able to understand these
genera and species. Please, please keep doing this!

Many thanks,

Robin Hansen



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 20:12:24 -0700
From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
	<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid
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Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has not been
true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly dwindling, but the
ones that are left usually do better in a wet year. The only ones to flower
so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, Calochortus catalinae, and
Calochortus vestae. That is until today when the attached showed up. I
remembered once before having a Calochortus that didn't look like any others
I grow so looked through my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not
since. I'll attach it too for comparison. 
Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra,
Mike Mace? Others?

It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering close
to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is what Jim
Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated.

Mary Sue

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 21:54:03 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net
Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid
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I'd guess that one of the parents is Calochortus splendens, but the orange
central zone is very unusual. C. splendens seeds freely in my bulb house.

Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA


On 6/6/2020 8:12 PM, Mary Sue Ittner via pbs wrote:
> Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has 
> not been true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly 
> dwindling, but the ones that are left usually do better in a wet year.
> The only ones to flower so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, 
> Calochortus catalinae, and Calochortus vestae. That is until today 
> when the attached showed up. I remembered once before having a 
> Calochortus that didn't look like any others I grow so looked through 
> my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not since. I'll attach it 
> too for comparison. Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its 
> parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra, Mike Mace? Others?
>
> It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering 
> close to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is 
> what Jim Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated.
>
>


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 22:10:23 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
To: Nan Sterman <info@waterwisegardener.com>, Pacific Bulb Society
	<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Checking California bulb species
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Nan's remarks are in turn baffling to me. How have you planted them? Is your
soil unusual in some way? What kinds of plants do well there? Do you have a
lot of rodents in your garden, such as ground squirrels, which eat the
bulbs? (Bears also love to eat them, but perhaps they are not common in your
garden.)

Diana Chapman's Telos Rare Bulbs list has many native bulbs, as does Robin's
Hansen Nursery. In addition, mass-market Dutch bulb catalogs offer a number
of western American bulbs, almost all of them under the wrong names, but
they have pictures. I'll probably send some bulbs to the BX this summer, and
last year Jim Barton of Modesto, CA, donated quite a few.

I can't think why themids would "have a reputation for being very difficult
to grow." Possibly literature from conservation groups suggests this to keep
people from digging them in the wild? I grew all of mine from seed
originally and they set masses of seed, which is a little hard to clean but
I always donate some to exchanges.

Mary Sue mentioned the long flowering period of Triteleia ixioides. It seems
to open flushes of flowers one after another, which makes the flower head
less suitable for cutting than some others. All the themids are great for
flower arrangements, very long-lasting. Indeed, a flowering stem detached
from the bulb will lie on the ground and complete its flowering and seed
maturation just from the moisture in the long stem. If Japanese or
modernistic floral design is an interest of yours, you'll find plenty of
inspiration in species such as Dichelostemma ida-maia and Triteleia
peduncularis.

Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA



On 6/6/2020 3:05 PM, Nan Sterman wrote:
> This is an interesting and baffling email in a few respects.  I live in
Southern California and the California native bulbs listed are very hard to
find for sale. They also have a reputation for being very difficult to grow
in general and my experience is the same.  To say they are ?too easy to
grow? is a big surprise to me.  Perhaps they are easy in Oregon but not in
Southern California though many are native here. If someone knows of sources
for bulbs (rather than seeds), I?d love to get that information.
>
> Nan Sterman
>
>


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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 05:40:19 +0000
From: Kipp McMichael <kimcmich@hotmail.com>
To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
	<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid
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Hmmm - this looks alot like C. palmeri. Here's an image from the web:
https://calflora.org/cgi-bin/viewphoto.cgi/…
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This tends to grow in seasonally moist mountain meadows so it might need a
particular pattern of winter & spring moisture. I've seen this in habitat(s)
have not yet grown this one myself.

-|<ipp

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Subject: [pbs] Calochortus hybrid

Although it has been a fabulous year for most of my bulbs, this has not been
true of my Calochortus. The ones I grow have been slowly dwindling, but the
ones that are left usually do better in a wet year. The only ones to flower
so far have been Calochortus uniflorus, Calochortus catalinae, and
Calochortus vestae. That is until today when the attached showed up. I
remembered once before having a Calochortus that didn't look like any others
I grow so looked through my photos and found it flowered in 2011, but not
since. I'll attach it too for comparison.
Calochortus fans, what do we think could be its parentage? Kipp, Bob Werra,
Mike Mace? Others?

It's a much smaller flower than Calochortus vestae that is flowering close
to it in my large wooden bed labeled "Mariposa hybrids" which is what Jim
Robinett used to call ones he sold that were open pollinated.

Mary Sue

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