It is sad that the board has acquired dysfunctional aspects. It is exactly because of such tendencies that I would like to discourage incorporating social media (facebook, etc.) into the functionality of PBS. Social media tends to encourage a tribal groupthink, which by its nature defines the non-tribal enemy groups by their differing thoughts. Some politicians have said "you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts." But I find this contrary to reality. While I am basically a 'wild-eyed radical' I have several very conservative friends and I have found the opposite truth through respectful interchange of beliefs. Had I the same set of facts (beliefs) as them, I would have had the same opinions. The necessary part is a respectful interchange that enables you to see how someone with differing beliefs could allow them to get there with integrity. I found this difficult to accept at first because I DO believe in an objective reality. But winning an argument is seldom in the list of goals for a non-profit (and is practically oxymoronic because of the nature of the sympathetic nervous system). tim On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 9:03 AM Luminita vollmer via pbs < pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Hey Tim > you must know that once on the board you cannot freely say what you think, > as the board can and will wipe you off. The discussion will never take > place on the board, as the squashing that comes from the board will happen. > > Volunteering comes from the motivation of the volunteer, and it will only > happen if the board is willing to listen to the new ideas. Usually new > ideas mean change, they are fragile, and like our friend Bob Dylan said - > people will destroy the fragile things they don't understand or have not > seen before. > > New ideas don't fit a predefined form, they are different and disrupt. And > who wants that, right? > > What a shame that I will NEVER volunteer again here or anywhere else, > because of the treatment the PBS board gave me for being disruptive. Words > represent thinking, and you had the opportunity to "hear" what the thinking > was when the reply to all showed you. > > Luminita > ex-pbs volunteer > > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:05:27 -0500 > From: Tim Eck <timeck17582@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] How Best to Use Modern Technologies > Message-ID: > < > CA+ur5iZbh1ktUoHw-0bHaBHgKb_F0f8C_CjA8axC7W_TrvnivA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Frankly, I think you would make a great addition to the board. You seem to > have the energy and drive to do things and willingness to follow through > against adversity. The board seems to mostly self-select 'nice guys' for > the sake of convenience but I would rather have this part of the discussion > take place in a board meeting than on the list. > Keep your friends close... > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…