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> 1. SA group order ? (Ottoline Clapham)
> 2. Re: SA group order ? (Bridget Wosczyna)
> 3. Re: SA group order ? (Robert Lauf)
> 4. Re: SA group order ? (xyzhou25@aol.com)
> 5. Re: SA group order ? (Arnold Trachtenberg)
> 6. Clarification on Group Order (Robert Lauf)
> 7. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Nan Sterman)
> 8. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Christine Doud)
> 9. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Arnold Trachtenberg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 08:37:53 -0700
> From: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com>
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> Subject: [pbs] SA group order ?
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> My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs .
> I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think
> this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much
> appreciated as I want the transition to go well.
> Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot .
> Ottoline
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 11:46:25 -0400
> From: Bridget Wosczyna <fritchick@gmail.com>
> To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Cc: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com>,
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> Hello! I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be
> planted or potted immediately.
> It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new
> environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are
> paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc.
> Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants.
> Best of
> Bridget
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing
> bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do
> you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will
> be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well.
> > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot .
> > Ottoline
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> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>
> To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ?
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> I emphatically agree.? Plant everything now!? Put the winter growers in a
> well-draining medium; small things should be planted with the tip just at
> soil level, whereas larger things generally should be partially exposed.?
> The culture tags should make this clear in individual cases.
> After planting the winter growers, I give them one watering just to settle
> them in, then no more deliberate watering until they sprout in the fall.?
> But be aware that they might do some root growth in the meanwhile, which is
> why they should be planted.? Mine are in the dry corner of the greenhouse
> (out of reach of the auto misters) so they get no watering but do enjoy a
> bit of humidity while dormant.
> I have ordered from SA Bulb four times in the past and so far almost
> everything established well and have grown fabulously since (to the point
> that I have seeds to share in the SX from time to time).
> Good luck.
> Bob? ?Zone 7 w more rain moving in
> On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 11:46:52 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be
> planted or potted immediately.
> It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new
> environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are
> paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc.
> Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants.
> Best of
> Bridget
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing
> bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do
> you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will
> be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well.
> > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot .
> > Ottoline
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> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 16:46:28 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "xyzhou25@aol.com" <xyzhou25@aol.com>
> To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ?
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> Good morning Bridget,
> Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship??
> Thank you!Zeon
> On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be
> planted or potted immediately.
> It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new
> environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are
> paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc.
> Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants.
> Best of
> Bridget
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing
> bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do
> you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will
> be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well.
> > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot .
> > Ottoline
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 17:20:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ?
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> Zeon et al:
> The order was too large for one box. A large box moves us into another
> category so the order was split. The second box is scheduled in?this?week
> to the jfk area. It will be shipped after inspection to Bridget who will
> distribute to those who ordered?
> Many of the first box folks??have already received their bulbs.?
> We had everyone pay for their order so we could send the funds to SA.?
> Lots of folks did a great deal of work on these orders. Bob Lauf deserves
> a big shoutout for his contributions and chasing down some very
> bureaucratic people in the system.????
> We also had our Euro cousins place an order that?Uli and Martin
> coordinated.?
> Enjoy the bounty and hopefully we will see the seeds of this project being
> donated to the SX in the future.?
> Arnold?
>
>
>
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> On Monday, May 19, 2025, 12:46 PM, xyzhou25--- via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
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> Good morning Bridget,
> Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship??
> Thank you!Zeon
> ? ? On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:?
>
> Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be
> planted or potted immediately.
> It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new
> environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are
> paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc.
> Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants.
> Best of
> Bridget
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing
> bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do
> you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will
> be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well.
> > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot .
> > Ottoline
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 03:12:25 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order
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> Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised
> to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.? That was
> necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we
> have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh to pack each
> genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible
> genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you
> should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment.
> Sorry for any confusion.
> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while
> Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational
> explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class
> nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and
> that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without
> one of us having a stroke.? So please bear with us.
> Bob
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 20:21:00 -0700
> From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com>
> To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Cc: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>, Bulb Society Pacific
> <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order
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> ?Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were
> surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.
> That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by
> genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh
> to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the
> possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species
> but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an
> assortment.
> > Sorry for any confusion.
> > The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while
> Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational
> explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class
> nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and
> that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without
> one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us.
> > Bob
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 23:31:57 -0700
> From: Christine Doud <christinedoud@shasta.com>
> To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order
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> Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have
> some variety. That?s what I hoped for.
>
> I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery
> in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade.
> But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off
> season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting? They
> are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the
> surface.
> Thanks.
>
> What is ORNL?
> Christine
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ??Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were
> surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.
> That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by
> genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh
> to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the
> possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species
> but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an
> assortment.
> >> Sorry for any confusion.
> >> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while
> Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational
> explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class
> nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and
> that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without
> one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us.
> >> Bob
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> Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 11:36:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net>
> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
> Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order
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> On Tuesday, May 20, 2025, 2:32 AM, Christine Doud via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have
> some variety. That?s what I hoped for.
>
> I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery
> in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade.
> But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off
> season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting?? They
> are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the
> surface.
> Thanks.
>
> What is ORNL??
> Christine
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >
> > ??Nincompoopery!?? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs <
> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were
> surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.?
> That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by
> genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh
> to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the
> possible genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species
> but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an
> assortment.
> >> Sorry for any confusion.
> >> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while
> Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational
> explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class
> nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and
> that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without
> one of us having a stroke.? So please bear with us.
> >> Bob
> >> _______________________________________________
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