Fuck PBS. Trash leftist garbage. On Tue, May 20, 2025, 7:00 AM <pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SA group order ? (Ottoline Clapham) > 2. Re: SA group order ? (Bridget Wosczyna) > 3. Re: SA group order ? (Robert Lauf) > 4. Re: SA group order ? (xyzhou25@aol.com) > 5. Re: SA group order ? (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 6. Clarification on Group Order (Robert Lauf) > 7. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Nan Sterman) > 8. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Christine Doud) > 9. Re: Clarification on Group Order (Arnold Trachtenberg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 08:37:53 -0700 > From: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <9DDE3A8B-A9DD-4525-959E-A2CD375D147E@yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing bulbs . > I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do you think > this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will be much > appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > Ottoline > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 11:46:25 -0400 > From: Bridget Wosczyna <fritchick@gmail.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Ottoline Clapham <ottoline_clapham@yahoo.com>, > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <361837B3-6398-4BFB-89FE-14A8B51E6BA0@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello! I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be > planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new > environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are > paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > > > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing > bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do > you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will > be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > > Ottoline > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 15:58:47 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1603609018.2164707.1747670327063@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I emphatically agree.? Plant everything now!? Put the winter growers in a > well-draining medium; small things should be planted with the tip just at > soil level, whereas larger things generally should be partially exposed.? > The culture tags should make this clear in individual cases. > After planting the winter growers, I give them one watering just to settle > them in, then no more deliberate watering until they sprout in the fall.? > But be aware that they might do some root growth in the meanwhile, which is > why they should be planted.? Mine are in the dry corner of the greenhouse > (out of reach of the auto misters) so they get no watering but do enjoy a > bit of humidity while dormant. > I have ordered from SA Bulb four times in the past and so far almost > everything established well and have grown fabulously since (to the point > that I have seeds to share in the SX from time to time). > Good luck. > Bob? ?Zone 7 w more rain moving in > On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 11:46:52 AM EDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be > planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new > environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are > paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > > > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing > bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do > you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will > be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > > Ottoline > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 16:46:28 +0000 (UTC) > From: "xyzhou25@aol.com" <xyzhou25@aol.com> > To: Bridget Wosczyna via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1336740225.2181935.1747673188354@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Good morning Bridget, > Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship?? > Thank you!Zeon > On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be > planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new > environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are > paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > > > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing > bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do > you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will > be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > > Ottoline > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 17:20:40 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] SA group order ? > Message-ID: <1283031446.1204.1747675240021@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Zeon et al: > The order was too large for one box. A large box moves us into another > category so the order was split. The second box is scheduled in?this?week > to the jfk area. It will be shipped after inspection to Bridget who will > distribute to those who ordered? > Many of the first box folks??have already received their bulbs.? > We had everyone pay for their order so we could send the funds to SA.? > Lots of folks did a great deal of work on these orders. Bob Lauf deserves > a big shoutout for his contributions and chasing down some very > bureaucratic people in the system.???? > We also had our Euro cousins place an order that?Uli and Martin > coordinated.? > Enjoy the bounty and hopefully we will see the seeds of this project being > donated to the SX in the future.? > Arnold? > > > > > > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Monday, May 19, 2025, 12:46 PM, xyzhou25--- via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Good morning Bridget, > Just following up when the bulbs from SA will ship?? > Thank you!Zeon > ? ? On Monday, May 19, 2025 at 08:46:52 AM PDT, Bridget Wosczyna via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:? > > Hello!? I have been advised by our purveyors that all bulbs should be > planted or potted immediately. > It is most important to give them a good shot at acclimating to their new > environments and will help protect them as well. Cultural necessities are > paramount, ie-if they need water while dormant or must be bone dry etc. > Kindly keep this in mind to assure your success for happy plants. > Best of > Bridget > > > On May 19, 2025, at 11:38?AM, Ottoline Clapham via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?My wonderful SA bulbs arrived. I have potted up the summer growing > bulbs . I am going to leave the winter growing bulbs in the packets , do > you think this is wise ? Or are you doing something else? Any advice will > be much appreciated as I want the transition to go well. > > Greetings from Yuba City 9b where it?s starting to get hot . > > Ottoline > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > ? > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 03:12:25 +0000 (UTC) > From: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <638599388.2446419.1747710745363@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were surprised > to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.? That was > necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by genus and we > have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh to pack each > genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the possible > genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species but you > should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an assortment. > Sorry for any confusion. > The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while > Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational > explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class > nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and > that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without > one of us having a stroke.? So please bear with us. > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 20:21:00 -0700 > From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@waterwisegardener.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: Robert Lauf <boblauf@att.net>, Bulb Society Pacific > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: > <31D60B07-E6B5-403E-A869-DD6FD11E8D81@waterwisegardener.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > ?Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were > surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group. > That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by > genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh > to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the > possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species > but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an > assortment. > > Sorry for any confusion. > > The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while > Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational > explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class > nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and > that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without > one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us. > > Bob > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 23:31:57 -0700 > From: Christine Doud <christinedoud@shasta.com> > To: Bulb Society Pacific <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <16B5ECCB-89F3-4433-A285-55F26D1504E9@shasta.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have > some variety. That?s what I hoped for. > > I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery > in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade. > But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off > season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting? They > are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the > surface. > Thanks. > > What is ORNL? > Christine > > > On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ??Nincompoopery!? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> > >> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were > surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group. > That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by > genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit. So I asked Leigh > to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the > possible genera. The culture cards on the bags show a particular species > but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an > assortment. > >> Sorry for any confusion. > >> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while > Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane. I have no rational > explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class > nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and > that's saying something. Leigh and I hope we can get through this without > one of us having a stroke. So please bear with us. > >> Bob > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >> PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 11:36:52 +0000 (UTC) > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold140@verizon.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Clarification on Group Order > Message-ID: <1591214718.1352610.1747741012605@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Oak Ridge National Lab > Arnold > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Tuesday, May 20, 2025, 2:32 AM, Christine Doud via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation of the 50 bulb pack. I?m glad that we will have > some variety. That?s what I hoped for. > > I have a tiny question. Many of the bulbs have started to send up greenery > in the packets. So I did as advised - plant and water and put in the shade. > But it?s likely they will continue to sprout and grow now - in or off > season of course. Any advice in how I proceed given the sprouting?? They > are all planted in moistened well draining soil in pots just below the > surface. > Thanks. > > What is ORNL?? > Christine > > > On May 19, 2025, at 8:21?PM, Nan Sterman via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > ??Nincompoopery!?? Thank you for adding a great new word to my vocab!!! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 19, 2025, at 8:12?PM, Robert Lauf via pbs < > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > >> > >> ?Several members ordered the 50 mixed iridaceae grab bag and were > surprised to get separate bags of particular genera within this group.? > That was necessary because the invoice must call out all the plants by > genus and we have to have all those genera on our permit.? So I asked Leigh > to pack each genus separately and I made sure our permit includes all the > possible genera.? The culture cards on the bags show a particular species > but you should expect that when your bulbs bloom there will indeed be an > assortment. > >> Sorry for any confusion. > >> The second box has been sitting at DHL in Johannesburg for a week while > Leigh tries to convince someone to put it on a plane.? I have no rational > explanation for what has been going on there - some truly world-class > nincompoopery the likes of which I never saw in 23 years at ORNL, and > that's saying something.? Leigh and I hope we can get through this without > one of us having a stroke.? So please bear with us. > >> Bob > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > >> Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >> PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > PBS Forum latest: > https://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbsforum/index.php/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 99, Issue 11 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net https://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…